Questions tagged [intonation]

Marks questions discussing the precise control over pitch that musicians exhibit as part of their technique; also used to describe the tuning of one's instrument or one's system of tuning.

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Problems with playing high notes (17-20th fret on e-string)

I have a problem that when I play a note on the e string (the tiniest one) on the 17th to 20th fret, I noticed that the same notes were repeated and starting in the 21st fret, the notes were fine ...
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How can I measure, or otherwise quantify, the accuracy of intonation of my classical guitar, in order to compare it with other classical guitars?

Is there an standard / common way of measuring and comparing intonation in classical guitars? Say, if I were a luthier, which objective method would I use to decide if any given classical guitar needs ...
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If the resolution of human hearing is approximately five cents, how can musicians play works with intonation changes of less than five cents?

Sources1 suggest that the frequency resolution of humans—our ability to discriminate differences in pitch—is limited to around five cents. If this is the case, how can musicians play an excerpt like ...
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Electric guitar intonation flat above 12th fret, no luck with usual methods

My Floyd Rose equipped electric guitar has mostly spot-on intonation across the fretboard minus the high e string above the 12th fret, where it is pretty consistently flat (1-2 red LEDs from the ...
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Out of tune and Buzzing

I recently replaced the nut and saddle and put new strings on my acoustic. My guitar does not play in tune, even after I know I've turned it correctly. Some chords sound in tune while others don't. ...
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Problem with violin finger placement changes with each string?

I have a violin student who recently purchased a violin from a music shop. It's not a professional grade violin, but it is still a nice student model. My student's intonation seemed to get worse after ...
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Type of Trapeze for acoustic guitar

I'm wondering if anyone has ever developed a trapeze for acoustic guitar that included features that would allow intonation adjustments similar to what is available on electrics? I have an old Yamaha ...
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Gibson les paul standard (2019) 50's neck guitar's unique intonation problem

I recently bought a new non-weight relief Gibson les Paul standard with 50's neck. The guitar comes with an ABR style tune-o-matic bridge. As soon as I played it I noticed that the low "E" and "A" ...
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(Solved) Intonation Problem (Only with High E and B Strings) in Acoustic Guitar

My Acoustic Guitar's Intonation is right in place for the bottom 4 strings, But the Top two are off. Octave is 50 Cents flat in B-string and 1 semi-tone flat in E-string. - I thought it was the ...
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Low E-string sounds out of tune [duplicate]

I have an issue with the low E string on my Acoustic Seagull S6 Original. Ever since I changed the strings, the E string seems to be out of tune in a weird way. When the open E is right on the spot (...
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Are intonation issues in a cheap acoustic guitar fixable?

so I am a beginner guitarist, and I have one quite good guitar, and a cheap one. I`ve tuned it to standard tuning, and when I play the 5th fret on the E string on the cheap one, it goes like 1/4 of a ...
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Intonation on a classical guitar

Aaaagh, it's driving me crazy! My yamaha is massively sharp on two strings at 7,9 and 12 and flat on 1 string. I know how to fix the flat (using a diamond nail file etc) but not the sharps, ...
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Why are my string saddles getting stuck?

I've been having trouble getting my strings properly intonated, and it seems like it's because the saddles are getting stuck. What it looks like is that they're pressed against each other so tightly ...
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Was equal temperament caused by the invention of the piano, or was it inevitable?

Historically, which key a piece of music was written in made a big difference. Toccata and Fugue in D minor for instance had to be played in that key or it wouldn't sound right. But over the last ...
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Fixing Low Brass Intonation Outside

I'm a part of a marching band in mid-Michigan, where the weather varies widely from day to day and often hour to hour. The band I'm a part of is currently wrapping up our competition season over the ...
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Harmonic series role in a just intonation interval ranking?

In my studies, I was reflecting on this theory and just wanted your guys clarification.. A pitch in an octave is comprised of a fundamental frequency followed by its overtones. When we focus on an ...
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How is intonation set on acoustic guitar

How do you alter the intonation on an acoustic guitar, I have nearly always played electric but more recently bought a Gibson Songwriter which I cannot put down and I have hardly played my Les Paul. ...
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Modal playing on an instrument designed for just intonation in the major scale (specifically dulcimer)

Sorry if this gets long-winded; I've only recently ventured down the JI rabbit-hole and want to spell out my reasoning in a way that will expose gaps in my understanding. For those not familiar with ...
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Electric guitar out of tune (intonation)

I have an Epiphone SG400, and today when I played I heard that the B string is out of tune when I press on higher frets (8-12 frets). I tried to change the action and intonation, but now the all of ...
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How can I develop highly accurate intonation/tuning without perfect pitch? [duplicate]

I've been reading a bunch of things violinists write and a good portion of them seem to contradict themselves. At this point I'm starting to get really frustrated, so I could really, really use some ...
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How can I improve my violin intonation for enharmonic notes?

I know that while, for many instruments, enharmonic notes are a single pitch and their differences are more of an interpretation, helping music to remain consistent (it would make more sense for a ...
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Intonation on Gibson 339 guitar varies by pressure

Gibson ES 339 - Seems to go out of tune when applying normal pressure when playing a chord. If I use very light pressure, not normal, then it is in tune. Could this be a problem with my nut ?
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Flattened notes and odd fuzzy sound on trumpet

Yesterday practicing I noticed a high improvement over previous days in terms of sound and intonation, I could play all the harmonic series up to high E more or less properly intonated and with a good ...
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I need help with my acoustic guitar [closed]

I changed my acoustic guitars strings but now they won’t even play right notes, when I try to play any of the strings it sound normal But when I go a do kind off like a walk in baseline around the ...
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Calculation of a note's frequency in the 18th-19th century

Suppose you are trying to reproduce an A major scale from the early 18th or 19th century, when A4 was perhaps tuned to 429.3Hz. What is the correct frequency (in Hz) for the next C# up (assuming we ...
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Electric guitar out of tune on 12th fret(intonation)

I just bought an electric guitar (stratocaster), and I'm a beginner, so setting it up is a welcome and annoying challenge. The issue I have is with the intonation. The high E is fine on the open ...
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What is the relationship between “intonation” and tone?

According to wikipedia: "Intonation, in music, is a musician's realization of pitch accuracy, or the pitch accuracy of a musical instrument." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intonation_(music)) The ...
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Is it natural to have some small buzzing in the guitar?

I have an Ernie Ball Music Man Majesty which plays extremely well. When I bought it it was set-up. After 6 months I have noticed that the low E-string buzzes slightly if I pluck it moderately ...
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Strat tuned to C standard with 13-56 strings - intonation problems

I play a hardtail stratocaster with the following set of strings: 13, 17, W26, W36, W44, W56 (W means wound) and tuned to C standard: C F Bb Eb G C. Since all the time now I have intonation issues. ...
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Why is Stratocaster Low E-String Intonation at Limit?

I recently got an American Standard Stratocaster and I've been working on setting it up. I have tightened the intonation adjustment screw for the low E string to its limit and now the tension spring ...
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Pacific State - Is this out of tune, or is it a sophisticated performance playing with temperament?

I heard the song "Pacific State" by the band "808 State" on the radio last night. It sounded to me like the sax was badly out of tune. But it then struck me that the performer might be playing that ...
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Guitar Intonation Problem, Always Sharp

I've been playing guitar for 7 years already. Throughout the years my ear developed and I started to notice intonation issues. I've been trying to fix it, but I never could. I adjusted the truss rod,...
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Why frequency difference between notes is not constant? [closed]

I found that the difference is sometimes ~3, sometimes ~2 or ~4 Hz. Why isn't it constant? Would it be better if it was constant?
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Why do E♯ and F♮ not sound the same (according to Wikipedia)?

I was just reading the Wikipedia page on the note F (as I do every evening) and was confused by this part where it says that even though F♮ and E♯ are enharmonic they “do not sound the same”: E♯ is ...
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Deafness and intonation in music

I have a question I'm hoping someone may be able to help with. I'm 52 years old and have been a professional musician all my life. I play violin, viola and cello and these days do mostly remote ...
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Is there a simplified version of music theory / notation for Western music?

So far as I understand it, Western music uses a 12-note chromatic scale from octave to octave, and modern instruments use even temperament. Other cultures have smaller intervals, meaning a different ...
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Am I hearing things in these two Michael Jackson songs?

My dad and I noticed something: On Michael Jackson's "Burn this Disco Out", there's a certain chord that occurs before the track fades out. That one chord sounds ...
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Why do I only sing in tune while playing acoustically myself?

I have this weird problem where I can consistently hear the note and sing extremely in tune in a group setting, with the artist also singing in the background of a track, or even while I'm playing the ...
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Is my soprano saxophone poor or am I doing something wrong?

I have just aquired a soprano saxophone for the first time. Previously I have only played alto and baritone, never a soprano before. Something I am encountering which I have never before - and it is ...
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New strings to fix acoustic intonation issue?

I have just purchased a second hand acoustic guitar: a Sigma 000MC-15E. The strings it came with tune fine but the high e string sounds noticeably out of tune even when played just at the third fret! ...
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Piano Tuning: How accurate is ±0.5 cents?

A tuner accuracy is ±0.5 cent. Does that mean that it is highly sensitive or just decently sensitive for pitch accuracy?
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What are other intonations that exist in music?

I was wondering about the different intonations that have been used in the history of music. I have heard about Pythagorean Intonation, but are there any other types that exist ?
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Why was Le Concert Spirituel playing out of tune at Proms 2012?

I know it sounds like an odd question, but I was listening to a recording of Handel's music for the Royal Fireworks (available here on Youtube), and there are sections where the horn players are ...
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How do I set my Ibanez guitar intonation?

I'm trying to intonate an Ibanez GIO GRG120EX to drop A#, but when I get the 12 fret in tune the open string it's out of tune and vice-versa. So far I've moved my pickups so they are not too close to ...
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Fretted notes consistantly ~10cents sharp across the fretboard compared to open

I have a baritone ukulele, which is basically a classical nylon-string guitar except missing the 2 bass strings. I've noticed when I tune I can either have fretted notes in tune or open notes in tune ...
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Telecaster saddles not moving forward

I've a little bit of incomprehension about the intonation of my 3-saddles Telecaster. It seems that none of the saddles are moving forward. If I turn the screw counterclockwise, I just get the screw ...
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Ibanez S7420 ZR2-bridge not flush with body anymore, I can't fix it

I have a Ibanez S7420 7-string with the ZR2 bridge and I think I just majorly screwed it up. The guitar was set up for standard 7-string tuning (BEADGBE) and I set it to A# F A# D# G C D# (tuning up ...
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One string sharp when fretted

I'm having trouble with my Epiphone SG G400 Pro. The 3rd string is sharp whenever I fret from the 1st - 12th frets. It's a tune-o-matic bridge and the saddle is as far from the nut as it can go. It's ...
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Key of song sung a cappella

If someone starts singing a song a cappella, then is it necessary for this person to sing in one of the 12 Western keys (A, A#, B, C, C#, D, D#, E, F, F#, G, G#)? For example, would it be ...
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Intonation when playing with a click track on one ear

Recently I participated in a project where we played film music live with the film playing. We got an earbud that played the click track for one ear so we stayed in time. Now this was an amateur ...