Questions tagged [intonation]

Marks questions discussing the precise control over pitch that musicians exhibit as part of their technique; also used to describe the tuning of one's instrument or one's system of tuning.

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Intonation exercises for string players

I am looking for intonation exercises for bowed strings. I use techniques mentioned by Simon Fischer in his books and those have served me well I think. However I am now able to match pitches well but ...
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Fret Buzz on specific areas

I have a Jackson Ke5Fr Kelly, I mainly used it on .09 string gauge with standadd tuning but last couple of months it was .10's in Whole-Step Down tuning. Now, I turned back to .09's and standard ...
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Playing Brass in Classical music: Intonation of thirds of a chord is often crucial

When playing classical music with for example a trombone, the player who plays the third of a chord must consciously adjust intonation depending on major / minor chords. On a piano this is not ...
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Electric guitar intonation flat above 12th fret, no luck with usual methods

My Floyd Rose equipped electric guitar has mostly spot-on intonation across the fretboard minus the high e string above the 12th fret, where it is pretty consistently flat (1-2 red LEDs from the ...
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Modal playing on an instrument designed for just intonation in the major scale (specifically dulcimer)

Sorry if this gets long-winded; I've only recently ventured down the JI rabbit-hole and want to spell out my reasoning in a way that will expose gaps in my understanding. For those not familiar with ...
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Piano Tuning: How accurate is ±0.5 cents?

A tuner accuracy is ±0.5 cent. Does that mean that it is highly sensitive or just decently sensitive for pitch accuracy?
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Pacific State - Is this out of tune, or is it a sophisticated performance playing with temperament?

I heard the song "Pacific State" by the band "808 State" on the radio last night. It sounded to me like the sax was badly out of tune. But it then struck me that the performer might be playing that ...
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Suggestions for practising playing in tune

I play soprano cornet in a UK brass band. Although I think I play in tune, it's often pointed out to me that I don't. Soprano cornet is notorious in this respect - some notes are in tune, others aren'...
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Flattened notes and odd fuzzy sound on trumpet

Yesterday practicing I noticed a high improvement over previous days in terms of sound and intonation, I could play all the harmonic series up to high E more or less properly intonated and with a good ...
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One string sharp when fretted

I'm having trouble with my Epiphone SG G400 Pro. The 3rd string is sharp whenever I fret from the 1st - 12th frets. It's a tune-o-matic bridge and the saddle is as far from the nut as it can go. It's ...
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Does good intonation alone really make you “louder”? If yes, why?

I have multiple times heard this claim, from very different sources. There certainly seems to be some correlation between intonation and "loudness", in the sense that ensembles with great harmony ...
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Problem with violin finger placement changes with each string?

I have a violin student who recently purchased a violin from a music shop. It's not a professional grade violin, but it is still a nice student model. My student's intonation seemed to get worse after ...
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How can I develop highly accurate intonation/tuning without perfect pitch? [duplicate]

I've been reading a bunch of things violinists write and a good portion of them seem to contradict themselves. At this point I'm starting to get really frustrated, so I could really, really use some ...
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Can the fan fretted design on guitars acheive pythagorean intonation?

If not then what kind of guitars/fretted string instruments can?
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Guitar Intonation Problem, Always Sharp

I've been playing guitar for 7 years already. Throughout the years my ear developed and I started to notice intonation issues. I've been trying to fix it, but I never could. I adjusted the truss rod,...
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Is there a simplified version of music theory / notation for Western music?

So far as I understand it, Western music uses a 12-note chromatic scale from octave to octave, and modern instruments use even temperament. Other cultures have smaller intervals, meaning a different ...
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Is my soprano saxophone poor or am I doing something wrong?

I have just aquired a soprano saxophone for the first time. Previously I have only played alto and baritone, never a soprano before. Something I am encountering which I have never before - and it is ...
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New set of strings on (bass) guitar with no adjustable intonation

When I restringed (re-strung?) my electric guitar, I had to take it back to the store because I belatedly realized that the intonation would have to be corrected. Now, I have two acoustic guitars and ...
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What is the relationship between “intonation” and tone?

According to wikipedia: "Intonation, in music, is a musician's realization of pitch accuracy, or the pitch accuracy of a musical instrument." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intonation_(music)) The ...
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Why frequency difference between notes is not constant? [closed]

I found that the difference is sometimes ~3, sometimes ~2 or ~4 Hz. Why isn't it constant? Would it be better if it was constant?
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Intonation on a classical guitar

Aaaagh, it's driving me crazy! My yamaha is massively sharp on two strings at 7,9 and 12 and flat on 1 string. I know how to fix the flat (using a diamond nail file etc) but not the sharps, ...
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(Solved) Intonation Problem (Only with High E and B Strings) in Acoustic Guitar

My Acoustic Guitar's Intonation is right in place for the bottom 4 strings, But the Top two are off. Octave is 50 Cents flat in B-string and 1 semi-tone flat in E-string. - I thought it was the ...
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Why are my string saddles getting stuck?

I've been having trouble getting my strings properly intonated, and it seems like it's because the saddles are getting stuck. What it looks like is that they're pressed against each other so tightly ...
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Intonation when playing with a click track on one ear

Recently I participated in a project where we played film music live with the film playing. We got an earbud that played the click track for one ear so we stayed in time. Now this was an amateur ...
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Equal temperament nearest possible to the just intonation

It is ever possible to have an equal temperament without using the pure octave. In this case we can produce equal temperament where an universal half tone is used. It will permit to stay nearest ...
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Guitar intonations sounds a bit off?

So I've got this Les Paul Custom a couple of weeks ago and it feels and plays great. I intonated it perfectly when I first got it too. So today I wanted to test how is intonation holding up and did ...
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Just intonation with Fluidsynth

Is there a way to get fluidsynth to play in just intonation, or more generally select the intonation of this soft synth?
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Low B keeps going out of tune

My seven string guitar has a problem. The low B constantly goes out of tune. Whenever I bend it, I immediately have to re tune it. The place I bought it said it was probably the nut but I am not ...
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Are intonation issues in a cheap acoustic guitar fixable?

so I am a beginner guitarist, and I have one quite good guitar, and a cheap one. I`ve tuned it to standard tuning, and when I play the 5th fret on the E string on the cheap one, it goes like 1/4 of a ...
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Is it natural to have some small buzzing in the guitar?

I have an Ernie Ball Music Man Majesty which plays extremely well. When I bought it it was set-up. After 6 months I have noticed that the low E-string buzzes slightly if I pluck it moderately ...
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New strings to fix acoustic intonation issue?

I have just purchased a second hand acoustic guitar: a Sigma 000MC-15E. The strings it came with tune fine but the high e string sounds noticeably out of tune even when played just at the third fret! ...
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Telecaster saddles not moving forward

I've a little bit of incomprehension about the intonation of my 3-saddles Telecaster. It seems that none of the saddles are moving forward. If I turn the screw counterclockwise, I just get the screw ...
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How accurately can a good musician judge an interval to be out of tune? [closed]

This is for a music/physics crossover experiment. Almost everyone will be familiar with the Doppler Effect, even if they don't know the name. Imagine that a vehicle is blaring its a siren or ...
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Am I hearing things in these two Michael Jackson songs?

My dad and I noticed something: On Michael Jackson's "Burn this Disco Out", there's a certain chord that occurs before the track fades out. That one chord sounds ...
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How is intonation set on acoustic guitar

How do you alter the intonation on an acoustic guitar, I have nearly always played electric but more recently bought a Gibson Songwriter which I cannot put down and I have hardly played my Les Paul. ...
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High End Guitars - Open string in tune - Fretted string not

I have 3 high end guitars. 2 Gibson's, SG and 335 1 Taylor 528-e Each of these guitars cost thousands. The SG and the Taylor - I have had for a few years - and have been professionally set up ...
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Harmonic series role in a just intonation interval ranking?

In my studies, I was reflecting on this theory and just wanted your guys clarification.. A pitch in an octave is comprised of a fundamental frequency followed by its overtones. When we focus on an ...
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Electric guitar out of tune (intonation)

I have an Epiphone SG400, and today when I played I heard that the B string is out of tune when I press on higher frets (8-12 frets). I tried to change the action and intonation, but now the all of ...
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Strat tuned to C standard with 13-56 strings - intonation problems

I play a hardtail stratocaster with the following set of strings: 13, 17, W26, W36, W44, W56 (W means wound) and tuned to C standard: C F Bb Eb G C. Since all the time now I have intonation issues. ...
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Ibanez S7420 ZR2-bridge not flush with body anymore, I can't fix it

I have a Ibanez S7420 7-string with the ZR2 bridge and I think I just majorly screwed it up. The guitar was set up for standard 7-string tuning (BEADGBE) and I set it to A# F A# D# G C D# (tuning up ...
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Why won't my new guitar play in tune?

Just recently, I finished building a guitar from a kit I had bought. It seemd pretty straight forward, and everything turned out fine, just with one issue. When I play an open string, the tuning is ...
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I need help with my acoustic guitar [closed]

I changed my acoustic guitars strings but now they won’t even play right notes, when I try to play any of the strings it sound normal But when I go a do kind off like a walk in baseline around the ...
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Guitar - Do you have to intonate based on your tuning?

Do I have to re-intonate the guitar when I change the tuning?
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What do I do if the saddles on my bridge are already touching the bridge but I want to raise my action?

I want to raise the action a tad of my Schecter Omen Extreme 6, because there is a bit of fret buzz on the 5th fret 1st string, and a bit around the higher frets as well (same string). But I know that ...
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Term & abbreviation for number of tones or notes per octave - independent of temperament or intonation

In the context of characterizing a completely arbitrary instrument or piece of world music, when trying to describe the number of notes or tones per octave we tend quickly to get grounded in notions ...
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Intonation on Gibson 339 guitar varies by pressure

Gibson ES 339 - Seems to go out of tune when applying normal pressure when playing a chord. If I use very light pressure, not normal, then it is in tune. Could this be a problem with my nut ?
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ibanez edge III tremolo intonation out of adjustment

i have an ibanez edge III trem and all my strings are 3 cents sharp for intonation. the adjusters are as far as they can go toward the neck.. is there any way to correct this?
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Gibson les paul standard (2019) 50's neck guitar's unique intonation problem

I recently bought a new non-weight relief Gibson les Paul standard with 50's neck. The guitar comes with an ABR style tune-o-matic bridge. As soon as I played it I noticed that the low "E" and "A" ...
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Electric guitar out of tune on 12th fret(intonation)

I just bought an electric guitar (stratocaster), and I'm a beginner, so setting it up is a welcome and annoying challenge. The issue I have is with the intonation. The high E is fine on the open ...
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keys with just intonation on guitar with standard tuning

I know that guitar is an imperfect music instrument as in standard tuning the intonation is slightly off. When playing a given chord, one or more notes will be slightly out of tune. I wanted to know ...