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The rhythmic organization of music into regularly recurring measures dictated by a time signature.

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Stressing the third beat more than the first in 4/4: is it syncopation?

The definitions of syncopation I've come across generally talk about stressing the offbeat (see, for example, Wikipedia) where "offbeat" sometimes refers to placing the accent in between beats (on the ...
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Aldous Huxley and 5/4 Meter in Music Predating “Take 5”

Background: "Take 5" by Paul Desmond (and famously recorded by the Dave Brubeck Quartet) is one of the more famous jazz standards out there, and one thing any analyst would point out immediately is ...
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Did the music of the common practice period always end with a full measure?

If there are pieces which end with an incomplete measure, then what would be some examples? And is there a term for an incomplete measure at the end? Something that would be the opposite of anacrusis.
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What besides a fast tempo is causing this Measure - Beat equivalence?

I have noticed something with the scherzo from Beethoven's Ninth and particularly the beat. If I just listen to the scherzo and try to feel the beat, I feel an Allegro, say around 130 BPM at the ...
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Metric Modulation: Length of 'swing' notes

I just exported a Piano score from Sibelius with a swing feel: I wanted to edit the MIDI in my DAW and noticed, that the notes actually weren't in a triplet duration. The second note was always off ...
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Is 5/4 simple or compound?

I have seen 3 major ways of subdividing the quarter notes in 5/4. 1 is treating it as a simple meter and 2 others treat it as an irregular compound(or technically speaking, complex) meter. I have seen ...
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Why is 3/4 a simple meter while 6/8 is a compound meter?

These two meters sound very much alike to me and they can often be used interchangeably. For example: it's a trivial thing to change the meter of "An der schönen blaue Donau" from 3/4 to 6/8. ...
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what mathematical rules can we use to generate paradiddles? [closed]

What mathematical rules can we use to generate (single, double, triple) paradiddles? Perhaps even paradiddles with odd meters. thanks! k
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effective prosody in lyric-writing [closed]

In this post, this post, and my own post in the writing stack exchange, it is clear that stresses in words should be aligned with the strong beats of the music. Apparently these occur on odd beats, ...
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What is meant by “quarter = half” when changing tempo?

What is meant by the following indications when changing tempo: " In 4 quarter = 126" and later "In 2 quarter = half"
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Counting in 8 rather than 4/4

Why do modern dance schools sometimes count in eighths, as in 5 6 7 8 ? My question is really whether they are translating 4/4 into 8/8? Can a time signature be written 8 /8 ? 1 2 3 4 ...
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How to notate time signature switching consistently every measure

It seems my musical journey's always pushing me into left field territory when it comes to notation ... So this time I'd like to know what would be a good way to notate a consistent switching of time ...
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What is the name of the practice of rhythm being written as series of 2's and 3's?

I remember some time ago learning about traditional Irish music and how a lot of the music wasn't written with our modern time signature structure, but was instead written as a series of 2 beat / 3 ...
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How to identify time signature from notation

I have a fair idea of the meters, and can identify from a time signature whether it is simple or compound, duple, triple, quadruple etc. However, I cannot figure out the reverse: the time signature ...
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How does an apparent 4/4 arise from 2 totally unrelated time signatures?

So I have been listening to Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition and I notice something that is unusual to me in his promenades. It has a 4/4 feel but it isn't written in 4/4 at all, instead it is ...
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Is dotted quarter note = 144 equivalent to quarter note = 96?

I have a piece to read that gives the tempo of dotted quarter = 144. Does that mean it's at a quarter note = 96? The piece has a time signature of 12/8, and I'm guessing each eighth note is played at ...
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Why are triple meter pop songs so rare?

Most popular music is in double, quadruple, and occasionally sextuple meter, but there are quite few pop songs in triple meter. My impressions is that songwriters write their songs in triple meter ...
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How to count polyrhythm 3 against 4 in common time?

Polyrhythm 4:3 in 3/4 meter can be "inverted" to 3:4 in 4/4 meter, like this... ...the notation is easy enough to write, because we can use tuplets to gloss over the division problem. Converting ...
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Is there really a 6/8 meter with jazz swing?

I recently started practicing jazz scales and rootless chords. I'm using very simple patterns: hit the chord, play up or down the scale with a swing rhythm. To give some musical context I'm playing in ...
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What is this old time signature (2 with a vertical line through it)?

On the fourth line of page 5 of the score of Fasch's Ouverture-Suite in F major, one reads a time signature that is the number 2 with a vertical line through it: What does it mean? I know some '...
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Regarding the beginning of Gould's B minor fugue, WTC 1, performance

I've listened to Gould's performance of this piece many times, sometimes following the score, and I've noticed that maybe Gould plays this piece wrong at the beginning. Unfortunately, I am unable to ...
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Problem with understanding differentiating meters and time signatures

I am currently trying to attempt to transcribe the fourth movement of scheherazade by Nikolai Korsakov-Rimsky and around bars 30+ there is a time signature change which says: 2/8(3/8 6/16). In the ...
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Is it hopeless in terms of becoming decent musicians, if they can't count beats?

My flesh-n-blood guitar teacher has tried to get me to count beats (verbally or at minimum in my mind), and I think that I've tried reasonably hard in doing so for few months now. However I've come to ...
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How does 'meter' differ from 'rhythm' in music?

The following introductory books' definitions don't distinguish meter from rhythm. Please see the titled question. I asked this on Music Fans, but I still don't understand. Please expound more plainly?...
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Why don't we have third notes? [duplicate]

why isn't there a third note It could be use in 3/2 or 3/4,and others that divide the measure with 3,what more of a question it can be formed too. If there was a third not it would work well in 3/2 or ...
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4/4 vs 3/4 time signatures

I'm new to music theory so I'm sorry if my question is trivial. Is it correct to say that, in practice, the only difference between 4/4 vs. 3/4 time signatures is where the accents are located? To me,...
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Are there situations where a time signature is unknown?

My understanding is that a time signature like 4/4 time is known because certain beats are emphasized, for example: ONE, two, three, four. But let's say someone created a song with tempo alone (ie ...
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How to interpret the '3' notation underneath the first two quavers?

I'm trying to adapt a guitar piece to the piano. The piece, shown here, is in 3/4. I've never seen this bit of notation before and I initially thought it was the indicator telling you to play 3 notes ...
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Is there a term for songs that have a “surprise change” in their rhythm? [duplicate]

There are many songs that begin with a repeating beat/instrumental that implies a certain rhythm (let’s call it “Rhythm A”), but then when a later instrument enters the song, it turns out that the ...
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Does a phylogeny of Afro-cuban rhythms exist?

I've recently been immersing myself in Afro-cuban rhythms. There are many similarities between them, and it struck me that it would be interesting to learn how they are related to each other with a ...
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Time signature problems in Debussy's “Clair de lune”

Clair de Lune by Debussy is in 9/8, but this bar doesn't look like 9/8 to me at all. Can anyone help?
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Turning lyrics into melody

Ive currently been having great difficulty turning my lyrics and poems into a melody. i've considered aligning the accented syllables as well as the meter with accented beats but am still having ...
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Why is meter divided into simple and compound types?

From what I understand, Simple Meter -- divisible by twos Compound Meter -- divisible by threes Why do we choose 2 and 3? Why not n divisions?
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measures numeration in polymetre

In polymetre and/or poly-tempo music, measures count in staves may be unequal. How measures should be numerated? Each stave have separate numeration?
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Songs that move between 6/8 and 4/4?

I am trying to do this for something I've written (4/4 in verse, 6/8 in chorus) but it's difficult to get in and out of smoothly, so I'm wondering how other people have tackled this. For my song, if ...
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Reinforcing meter when dealing with alternating 1/8 and 1/16 notes and rests

Below is an excerpt from a not very known piece (in 4/4 time) that prominently features abuses ornament notes: In an attempt to simplify the piece (which is full of similar ornamentation) while ...
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What exactly is a beat in sheet music/music?

A quick google search will reveal common answers, such as, beat is a steady "pulse" of music, beat is the foundation of rhythm, or beat is a basic unit. However, to me these are vague answers and I ...
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Is splitting the quarters into triplets syncopation?

Let's take the Amazing Grace song as example (3/4 rhythm): A - maz - z i n g Grace How Sweet the 3 1 2 3 3.5 1 2 3 1 2 3 ......
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How do I explain a time signature switch from 2/2 to 4/2?

I am presently studying Nathaniel Dett's Chariot Jubilee, and the time signature switches from 2/2 to 4/2. What are some suggestions on how to approach explaining to singers.
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Hearing the time signature switch of a cover of the “Mission Impossible Theme”

The original 1966 score of "Mission impossible" was written entirely in 5/4 time (you can listen to it here). For the first movie staring Tom Cruise, the theme was rewritten by two U2 band members, ...
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Meter and time signature headache

I'm having trouble understanding meter and time signatures. I want the complete logical rundown of what it means and how arrangement works, the arbitrary nature of it (some almost explain notation and ...
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How do 'meter' and 'rhythm' affect the choice of 'Polymeter' and 'Polyrhythm'?

I use chevrons (⟨⟩) to denote the concept behind the word. [ Source :] Meter is the rhythmic structure of the music. For example, a piece of music could be in 4/4 meter, which is a strong-weak-...
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What meter? Determining meter of three whole notes per measure. Counting 12 per whole note

In beginning piano class we are identifying pitches. The examples are written out as three whole notes per measure. The teacher is counting them out as one and two and, one and two and, one and two ...
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Number of notes in a tune such that it is metrically sensible

I am computationally generating short tunes (aiming for around 10-15 notes, 0.5 seconds per note) for a psychology experiment. I am wondering exactly how many notes I should have per tune, so that the ...
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How to count a note which has 6 on above it?

It's on 2/4 meter. I know we all are much familiar with 3 on top of any note which is a triplet. Here I'm confuse today: What is 6? Please describe to me what the 6 is about and how to count those red ...
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Can we use any note without caring much on rule of particular meter as long as note value fits in the meter?

As we know there are two main common meter :- simple and compound. We all know that simple meter divides a beat into two and compound meter into three. We also know that a measure holding two beat is ...
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What are the important beats in a measure and how do they affect music?

In a 4/4 situation, how does "importance" work in beats? I read somewhere that rock puts emphasis on certain beats and jazz puts emphasis on other ones. Also, when we have an important beat, how does ...
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How should I distinguish between syncopation or un-metrical rhythm?

Below are some two-part rhythmic frameworks I made up. I'm not notating pitches on staff, because I just want to focus on rhythm and meter, but I put some chord symbols in the 'bass' part to set a ...
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Is there a term for metric equivalence analogous to “enharmonic” for pitch equivalence?

Key signatures, chords, scales, and phrases are said to be enharmonically equivalent if they contain the same pitches, but are notated differently. Is there an analogous term to express that time ...
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What feel is 12/8 meter and why?

I know 6/8 is a two feel, so I feel like 12/8 would be a four feel of four triplet groups per bar. Is this correct?