Questions tagged [modes]

For questions concerning the musical modes. These can include historical views of mode by the Greeks or the various rotations of scale collections. Questions about historical views of mode should also include the history tag.

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Is it possible to distinguish if a melody is in C Dorian or in D Phrygian?

(This is my first post in this community, I tried to search an answer about that basic question but it's not easy, so sorry if it is a duplicate) Since the C Dorian scale contains the following notes: ...
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Categorizing modes of scales other than major scale

Modes of major scale are often ordered such that each consecutive scale can be obtained by altering one step of the previous one: lydian 1 2 3 #4 5 6 7 ionian 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ...
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What is the difference between “primi toni” and “octavi toni”

In XVI century, there was a composer called Girolamo Cavazzoni. He wrote (amongst other pieces) a couple of Magnificats - in primi toni, quarti toni, sexti toni and octavi toni. You can find the sheet ...
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What do you mean by the tonic chord feels as 'home'?

I am new to the world of music theory and have some basic knowledge of the different modes of the major scale. As per my knowledge, every scale has a tonic chord which is essentially the one all other ...
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What scale or mode is this?

The notes of the scale or mode in question are: G A B-flat D E F. Does this combination of notes have a name?
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What mode/scale are these notes in? [closed]

I have created a short melody that uses these notes: What mode contains these notes? I have tried Dorian, Aeolian, Lydian, Phrygian and Mixolydian by starting at the scale in each mode that contains ...
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Understanding method of applying modes on chords

I am learning about modes and trying to apply them on guitar over chord progressions, and I wanted to understand how exactly to know, when you hear some song, "ah, this song allows me to play ...
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How to modulate Phrygian to Harmonic Minor?

Is there any formulation to switch from Phrygian mode to Harmonic minor in same key. Like from A Phrygian to A Harmonic Minor. What I thought so far? A Phrygian Notes: A Bb C D E F G A A Harmonic ...
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A natural minor scale with raised fourth

Good day I am trying to understand what scale/mode is created by raising the fourth of a natural minor. It sounds quite dark. I understand that natural minor is the Aeolian mode of the major scales, ...
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Modes — C Lydian feels like G Ionian [duplicate]

I've been studying modes recently and since I have a piano, tried to experiment with them by improvising simple tunes. My problem is that as soon as I use something else that Ionian, my perception of ...
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Music and Maths - Is there a way to prove that there are only 7 Modes of Limited Transposition?

'Modes of limited transposition' are modes that have a limited availability of transpositions. Unlike a major scale that has 12 possible unique transpositions, the seven modes of limited transposition ...
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Are the names of scale degrees the same for different modes?

Do the naming conventions and their implied function still apply to modes outside the major and minor scale?Is the minor second of the Phrygian mode called the supertonic?Is the augmented fourth of ...
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Why does my head fill in the 'home' note when playing a different mode of a harmonic minor scale?

I've been learning and experimenting with modes only recently, despite having played guitar for almost 11 years. In the past, I would use a "no-holds-barred, free-for-all" approach to ...
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Why is there no fourth minor scale with a natural 6 and a flat 7?

These scales are considered the minor scales: natural: 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 harmonic: 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 7 melodic: 1 2 b3 4 5 6 7 (ascending) However, this scale: 4th min: 1 2 b3 4 5 6 ...
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Is there a theory of heptatonic scales with 1.5-step intervals?

I've been alternating between reading about music theory on Wikipedia and playing around with the scales that I've learned. The "modern Western modes" are defined systematically with their ...
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Help identifying cadences and modes in iidim7 - i - vidim - vsus4

I'm a beginner when it comes to modes and cadences, and I want to understand them better to improve my song-writing as a metal guitarist. While fiddling with my guitar today, I "wrote" this ...
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How to know what mode a song is in? [duplicate]

I am learning songs that use modes and up until recently I thought I kind of had things figured out but there are some songs that still confuse me and I wanted to touch up on learning about some of ...
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Do the stable tones in a melody change if a song changes from Aeolian to Dorian mode

I am learning a song that has a progression that is in A aeolian (or A phrygian) in the verse and then changes to D dorian in the chorus. I notice that the melody phrase ends on C and then A (stable ...
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Modal Chord Progressions [duplicate]

I understand how the modes sound different by targeting certain notes. That part is coming together aurally. What I don't understand is how a chord progression can be model. Since chord progressions ...
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What are historical and structural reasons for the prevalence of Major and Minor?

Not knowing the historical reasons, I can at least think of structural reasons for having a diatonic scale, equal temperament or other circulating temperaments, and a distinction in major/minor in ...
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theory question: Key of D, the 2, 3, and 6 chords are shifting to major chords?

I am playing a song in the key of D (or B minor actually, which is D), but inside of the song, the 2,3 and 6 chords are changing to major chords instead of minor chords. Bm becomes B. E minor becomes ...
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What is the origin and original meaning of “tonic”, “supertonic”, “mediant”, etc.?

Each of the pitches in the diatonic scale has a "name": tonic supertonic mediant subdominant dominant submediant subtonic I was first introduced to tonic, dominant, and subdominant in the ...
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Does this song have a key, and if so, what is it? [closed]

I'm writing a song where the notes do not align to any particular key. The way it works is this Chord 1 leads to Chord 2. Chord 2 leads to chord 3 but Chord 3 does not have to relate to Chord 1. Chord ...
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Question about George Russell Lydian Chromatic Concept

The wiki page says: Russell builds a prototype chromatic scale starting on the Lydian Tonic by stacking fifths, skipping the interval between the seventh and eighth tones. Using C as the Lydian Tonic ...
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What harmonic resources underlie on Pink Floyd's “Brain Damage” song which make it so beautiful?

Pink Floyd's "Brain Damage" is in the key of DMaj (I) , but the second arpegio chord (and perhaps the one that gives to the song his special sound) is G7 (IV7), whose 7th is a note that ...
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Are the notes in Blues scale in Am I Evil solo? [duplicate]

e|-11-12-11---11-12-14-14-14-12-11-12-11----|-----------------7---| B|---------12----------------------------12-|-10---------/7-------| I am analyzing the Guitar Solo of Metallica's cover version of ...
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Is there a reason why “Scale Inversions” don't get discussed?

It only dawned on me recently, but it's quite a fundamental and important feature of scales that they are not mirrored under their own inversion. The intervalic formula for major is: W W H W W W H If ...
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Is it right to call this music 'modal'? Or multi-modal?

There is a bluegrass song archetype that mixes the minor/major 3rd and raised/lowered 7th making almost an extended scale. How can I describe what's going on here using music theory? Modal mixture ...
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Why can't you use the same backing track for all modes of a scale?

I am seeing lots of statements online to guitarists that they should be careful to use the specific backing track for a mode. It seems to me that you should be able to use one backing track for all ...
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How should you apply the Nashville numbering system when a song is in a non-Ionian mode?

Ordinarily, Nashville numbering is simply used to denote the chords to be played according to the degrees of the scale, and where the chords vary, the custom is to use accidentals or additional ...
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Difference between Akebono and the diatonic scale?

It is written in this Wikipedia page that The Akebono scale is a musical scale commonly used in traditional Japanese music. Akebono and the Diatonic scale use the same intervals, but Akebono has no ...
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What scale is used with this descending bassline progression?

I am trying to find which scale this chord progression (Cmin - G\B - B♭ - Fmin\A♭ - A♭ - E♭\B♭ - Bdim) is borrowed from. I think it doesn’t fit on any scale because this progression uses modal ...
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What mode does this guitar solo use? [closed]

I'm trying to learn this amazing guitar solo from W.C. Fields played by Gabor Szabo. It starts at 02:00. I learned this first section which is in the key of G major. At 02:20–02:32 it switches to ...
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What key is this in? [closed]

I'm new in the forum. I have lots of unasked questions about music theory because I'm a self taught musician with no formal training, so I have a lot of confusion between concepts like, for example, ...
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Mode of Another Brick In The Wall by Pink Floyd? [closed]

The melody of this Pink Floyd song seems to be in the Dorian mode, but there is a G chord in the second half of the verse. How can it be determined whether the song is in Dorian or Aeolian?
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Aeolian mode harmony

I have been having trouble writing progressions in other modes, and I think this question might get me one step closer to understanding the modes (in this case just Aeolian) from a different ...
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What mode/scale is a minor scale with an added flat root note?

I've heard a lot of music that is in a minor key but also has a flattened root note. I'm not sure if this is considered a flattened root, or a sharp 7th. For instance, in the key of Em, an E♭ (E flat) ...
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In Medieval music theory was the symmetry of dorian mode considered a kind of tonal fundamental?

This existing answer and comment (https://music.stackexchange.com/a/17818/23919) sort of addresses my question. I don't know anything beyond mode I was dorian, lots of music was dorian, and Fux starts ...
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Why is it a convention to number modes by their tonic scale degree relative to ionian (major)?

In modern western modes, Ionian seems to be arbitrarily assigned as 'mode I', while the remaining modes are numbered according to the scale degree their tonic is relative to Ionian of same key. For ...
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How come modern modes are based on the same set of intervals?

I couldn't find any answer regarding this specifically, so I assume there's some basic concept behind this that I missed. So, as far as I know: Modern modes are based on the same set of intervals, ...
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Why does A minor scale sound the “best” over Dm and C chord progression?

I created a little loop with the following two intervals: D A and C G Listen here: https://tinyurl.com/ybsukagd In looking at what scale to use to solo over that simple progression, I thought D ...
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Should mode names be capitalized?

I'm seeking opinions about whether to capitalize mode names in educational materials I'm preparing. In ordinary references (not in titles) should I use Dorian or dorian, Locrian or locrian? Here's a ...
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How to negatively harmonize a major key into different modes other than Aeolian (minor) mode? (T7i inversion)

The T7i inversion transforms a major key into its parallel minor (Aeolian mode). How do I transform a major key into other modes? Are there inversions other than T7i?
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Modes over a simple chord progression

Suppose that we have the following chord progression with one measure for each chord: C Dm Em F G Am B° and that I always play the C major scale in each measure. Would it be correct to say ...
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Are there modes beyond Lydian?

I am learning music theory for fun and I am trying to understand different modes. I saw this video by David Bennett where he talked about how you can flatten an additional note in the Locrian mode to ...
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A Dorian scale/chord progressions

I'm currently jamming a song in G Major with focus on the A Minor. The chord progression goes Am C D. I know that the A Minor Blues Scale sounds pretty sleek, but I just have the feeling that A Dorian ...
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Is B♭ chord in C major related to Neapolitan chord?

I know what a Neapolitan chord is and know how to use it in some usual ways. But I want to talk about the B♭ chord in C major. I think B♭ here is very "Subordinate". And we can see it always ...
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Celtic modes, what modes are these?

I know the ancient Greek modes and the Gregorian modes of the medieval era. Reading in a comment the term Celtic modes I wonder is there something different or special that I have missed until today?
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Dorian mode cadences

From this question I read that modal cadences are different from tonic cadences. I'm trying to learn Dorian mode and I noted that in the answer they offer the suggestion of the second chord, first ...
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Why are there just 7 modes?

Let's take a look at Ionian mode. Its pattern is "WWHWWWH". Which there are 7 steps. If we consider this mode building problem as a permutation problem then we can arrenge them into 7!/(2!*5!)=21 ...

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