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Questions tagged [modes]

For questions concerning the musical modes. These can include historical views of mode by the Greeks or the various rotations of scale collections. Questions about historical views of mode should also include the history tag.

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Modes of the “major scale” or modes of the “diatonic scale”?

I'm doing some studying and I think I have a solid grasp on how the diatonic scale was formed, and how it naturally has 7 modes depending on which note you declare to be the tonic. However, all over ...
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Playing E Aeolian over B Aeolian progression?

I have this simple Bm G F#m Bm / Bm G F#7 Bm chord progression. AFAIK, that means I'm in B Aeolian (in the key of D major) - plus that F#7 dominant chord that would put me briefly in B harmonic minor? ...
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“Tonal Tones” and “Modal Tones” - what do they mean?

Robert Rawlins in his Jazzology: The Encyclopedia of Jazz Theory for All Musicians shows this chart, in his discussion about the modes of the major scale: Rawlins doesn't seem to offer a clear ...
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What is the name of the scale E, F#, G, A, B, C, D#?

I am fairly new to music theory, and I came across this kind of scale from a piano piece. From what I can tell, this is just e minor with a sharp d. What would this scale be called?
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Having a set of notes from a song how can I find out the right key which is written in, from the possible ones (considering modes) that fit those?

Having a set of notes that fit in both the G major scale and D mixolydian scale how can I find out which key is it in? What if it's hard to even find the tonic, because maybe it is rarely used?
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Why did Beethoven include “in the Lydian Mode” in the title of String Quartet, Op.132 - 3?

Beethoven himself gave a title to String Quartet No.15 in A minor, Op.132 - 3: A Convalescent's Holy Song of Thanksgiving to the Divinity, in the Lydian Mode From the language and context, and ...
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Evil Twins? Modes vs Mirrors

I noticed that the algorithm for Phyrgian mode is the mirror image of that for Ionian: (Numbers indicate count of chromatic tones - 'semitones') Ionian: Root->2-2-1-2-2-2-1:Root Phyrgian: ...
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Can one build a harmonies over mixolydian, as we build harmonies over major and minor?

I was wondering recently, whether mixolydian, lacking the lead tone but otherwise being very similar to major (ionic), was a scale we could use for writing whole songs in. In Jazz theory, the basic ...
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What are modes in series?

I've been reading the explanation to the question about the difference between the term tonal center and guide tone and came across the statement that modes can be in parallel or series. Please ...
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Certain frets sound good with respect to one another

A while ago I found an electric guitar. I've just been making up my own stuff on it, and I haven't been reading any tab, or playing chords or anything. But I found myself curious of something. ...
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Modal Chord Families

Lately I came here with a question about modal II-V patterns and my answers were varied. I'm very confused about modal chord families and I can't find a single book or page on the internet anywhere. I'...
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Modal II-V Patterns

So II-V7 patterns occur when a minor seventh and a dominant seventh are a fourth apart or when a minor seventh moves to a dominant seventh with root motion that moves down by half step. This all being ...
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What scales and or modes are used in rebetiko?

What scales and / or modes are traditionally used in rebetiko music?
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Modes over II-V-I

I was listening to a piece and the bassist talked about playing several different modes over certain chords. For example, over the first chord he was playing in D Dorian, obviously because it's a ...
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How to play improvisation using modes ? [closed]

for example if i start to play in F Lydian , what the last note should i landed to finish the melody in the chord changes ? is it the 1st , 5th , or any other suggestion ?
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2-5-1 Jazz progression and modes

I am classically trained and just started looking into jazz theory. I understand that the 2-5-1 progression is a good place to start. My basic understanding is to play the above progression with ...
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Why Locrian #2?

A scale built off the 6th degree of the jazz melodic minor (C-D-Eb-F-G-A-B-C) is spelled like this: A-B-C-D-Eb-F-G Paraphrasing Mark Levine's Jazz Theory Book, Chapter 3 - Modes of the Melodic ...
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Locrian mode and power chords

I'm studying in an online game music course, and I'm experimenting Modes to add unusual sound to the music. I'm a complete newbie in music. So let's have the Locrian mode, the root chord is a dimished ...
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What determines the mode? [closed]

I've been told that the mode (by mode I mean what note of the scale the song is based off of) is determined by (1)the first chord, (2)the last chord, (3)the last note of the melody, or (4)whatever ...
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Distinguishing the semantics of modes and scales. When to say scale vs. when to say mode?

Correct me if I am wrong: While scales are different from modes, they can share the same notes (C major and D dorian). However, they can completely shift its tonality. Say I play a melody in C Ionian, ...
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How to modulate from one mode to the next

Is there an established way to choose what mode/key to modulate to from the mode the composer is currently using? Modulating from C major to F major or G major, for instance, is "easy" because there ...
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How long to improvise on modes

How long should I improvise on modes? If I stay too long on a mode, I fear that will sound repetitive. At the same time, I feel like modes are meant to be stayed on for quite a while, or else the ...
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How to hear modes in music

How can I learn to "hear" modes in music? I feel like I have not developed my modal hearing sufficiently, and everything just sounds major or minor to me. Perhaps it's the genre of music I listen to (...
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Fingering for modes on the piano

I'm a self-taught pianist. I know how to play all the major and minor scales, so I believe I can progress to modes. How should I practice modes on the piano? Should I just use the fingering for the ...
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Distinction between Mode and Key [duplicate]

I am a little confused on the distinction between mode and key. If I see a lot of F#s (not in the key signature) and Cs, is it correct to say I am in C lydian mode but still in C major key? Moreover, ...
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How many different scales based on the modes are there?

Beginner here. So far, I have understood that a scale is an ordered subset of the twelve main notes. Consequently, a scale can be described by a pattern of half steps and whole steps along with a ...
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Do modes have a purpose on-stage? [duplicate]

NOTE: This question CANNOT be deleted by me (Ethan Cannoy). I was going to delete it, but since it has answers what happens to it is out of my hands. I would request, however, that you do not downvote ...
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Augmented dominant seventh chord = what scale?

An easy example: C+7 = C E G# Bb What scale would this thing come from? When playing it it sounds lydian to me, not so much dominant. Same notes rewritten: E+7#11 = E G# B# A# my best guess ...
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What's the value of modes?

Let's say we have a progression where all of the chords fit within traditional diatonic harmony. Maybe something like this: | E♭Maj♯11 | Cmin7 | F7 | B♭Maj | All of these chords fit ...
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What mode to use over this progression?

I am currently starting to understand the theory behind music and I'm trying to figure out the best approach to playing modes over chord progressions. I have to play a song where the bridge ...
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Non-classical Scale: What Kind of Scale is This? [closed]

A neat sounding scale. Any ideas what it might be called? Five tones before repeating at the octave, so I suppose it must be pentatonic of some kind D# - G - A - B(half flat) - B(half sharp) - d#
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Available Tensions for Modal Scale Degrees

I have a bit of a tricky topic here. I've been getting into bebop progressions, and I'm really enjoying myself. However the one thing I was missing was those nice lush chords you come by every so ...
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Why to learn more than one scale positions

This is a question i ask time and time again and no one is able to answer it. Why to learn more than one scale positions (boxes) on the guitar? Every box sounds exactly the same! People say i can ...
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What scales can you get modes from?

I know the modes from the major scale pretty well, and I've come to know that other scales like the melodic minor scales also has modes. So my question is, what other scales can modes be based off of ...
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Tension of Degrees Within Modal Chord Progressions

So this may be because a lack of understanding on my part when it comes to tension and release. But for some odd reason I just can't get my ear to work with me on it. So, when it comes to tension and ...
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Modal theory and resolution

Does each mode resolved to their respective roots as modes are to be seen as nothing more than another degree of the same scale/key. Or do they always resolve to the root note of the respective major ...
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Mode mnemonics instead of memory

Does anyone know a mnemonic for modes? I am not asking how to remember what they are, Ionian, Dorian...etc.. I am asking about one that will enable me to know what the Dorian note is in any scales. I ...
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Dominant 7th and Mixolydian

Is the mixolydian mode the same as the dominant 7th? I don't know how else to ask it - My grammar is very good!
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Modal Cadence Options

I understand that when playing in a mode, the cadences are quite different from tonal cadences. For example, in the Phrygian mode a cadence would be IV - iii (or II - i if we're renumbering the chords)...
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Why did Aristotle think Dorian is the manliest mode?

In Aristotle's Politics 1290a, he writes: of musical modes there are said to be two kinds, the Dorian and the Phrygian; the other arrangements of the scale are comprehended under one or other of ...
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What scale is this

Hi guys I found this scale whilst playing and I really like it st t t t t st t st: semitone t: tone (whole step) Not sure if this is an altered mode or a scale. Any clues ?
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Why is a bourdon tone added to this Von Bingen antiphone?

Consider the antiphone Spiritus sanctus vivificans vita of Hildegard Von Bingen [sound, score] In the recording, in addition to the notated voice, one note is held throughout the antiphone. Why is ...
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Melodic Minor Modes

Do modes exist in the harmonic / melodic minor scales? This question needs to be brought back to life. The answer to the question above is wrong... the chart is right, but the answer is wrong... ...
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What collection is this?

Does the following collection represent a Gregorian chant mode, or is it a scale? (cf. "How to know if it's a mode or scale?" or these resources on the 8 modes of chant)
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What is the name of the scale containing A, Bb, C#, D, E, F?

I found that there are six notes that sound curious and inspiring to my ears, namely A, Bb, C#, D, E, F. But I am not aware of any named scales that have these six particular notes. So my question is:...
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Playing scales over I IV V progression

Playing over a diatonic I - IV - V progression in the key of C, one could use C Ionian over the I chord , F Lydian over the IV and G Mixolydian over the V. Of course these modes are just the notes of ...
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How to use modes in popular music?

Can a pop song be written using a specific mode for the vocal melody, and another for the chord progression, when both of the modes share the same key signature? (Please note that I am not referring ...
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What's the name of this scale/mode?

I have seen this scale on a handpan and now I'm asking the name of the scale/mode that consists of the notes C# / G#, Bb, B C#, D#, F, F#, G# B ?
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Chord progressions fluctuations

I'm sill in the learning process for chords progressions, so I'm sorry in advance if my questions are simplistic for some advanced musicians. I've watched several harmonic analysis (Youtube, websites....
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What's the name of the scale/mode that consists of the notes C,C#,E,F,G,G#, and A#?

Sorry if I'm not using the right terminology. (I am self taught and mostly just fiddle around in a DAW). I happened upon this scale / mode but I don't know what it's called. C,C#,E,F,G,G#,A#