Questions tagged [modes]

For questions concerning the musical modes. These can include historical views of mode by the Greeks or the various rotations of scale collections. Questions about historical views of mode should also include the history tag.

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Does Bill Conti's Thomas Crown Affair theme use a specific mode?

So I was watching The Thomas Crown Affair (1999) (The remake, not the original) and I was struck with the colors and general feel of the main theme, composed by Bill Conti. I immediately wanted to ...
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What is Vincent Persichetti saying about finding primary chords in the modes?

I'm really confused about what Vincent Persichetti wrote in his book Twentieth Century Harmony, where he says speaking of primary chords in modes, "The Primary chords are the tonic, plus two dominant ...
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Relationship between modes and keys

I watched a video about playing a lead/melody over the chord progression of A minor -> D major. In the video it was stated that these chords are from the key of G major, but since the "tonic" of the ...
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Two modes simultaneously?

In Yes' "Close to the Edge" (the song), there's a fast keyboard riff towards the end with the rest of the band playing accompaniment. But what I find odd is how keyboardist Rick Wakeman persistently ...
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In guitar, the best way to learn all scales (modes of natural, harmonic, melodic scales,etc) in every key is…?

In guitar, the best way to learn all scales (modes of natural, harmonic, melodic scales,etc) in every key is to memorize entire pattern of one scale in the neck like this or just memorize one shape ...
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Modal confusion

I'm a novice in music theory. I was just improvising over a C-B7 progression and I can play the E harmonic minor and also Em pentatonic scale over this progression. What mode would they be if we take ...
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Using the Circle of Fifths for Modal Music Key Changes: Is this oversimplifying?

I am learning about the modes, relative scales, and the circle of fifths. I am interested in adding key changes to my playing. I understand that if you're playing in, say C major, the easiest key ...
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Why are Ionian and Aeolian considered Major and Minor keys respectively, but not the other modes? [duplicate]

Why is the Ionian mode called a major key, and the Aeolian mode called a minor key, while the other modes aren't called "Keys"? F Major is relative to D Minor, and just so G Dorian is relative to ...
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Do scale degrees in modes have the same harmonic function they have in the major scale?

For example, is V the dominant in all modes?
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Why is the natural minor the most popular mode of the major scale? [closed]

The most popular scales are: 1. major 2. natural minor (aka aeolian, 6 mode of major). What was it about this mode that stood out compared to all the others. Is there a reasoning for this, or is it ...
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Meaning of Capitalization on The Notation of Gregorian Psalm Tone Endings

As you know, most Gregorian Psalm Tones have alternative endings. For example, Tone I has 10 possible endings. The endings are denoted by a letter and a number. I understand (correct me if I am ...
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Is it possible to find the mode of the borrowed chord?

I came across a piece which uses a dorian progression: i - IV - VII - III - ii7 - v - V V is a borrowed chord, but is it possible to determine from which mode this chord was borrowed? (lydian, ...
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Do any countries use scales apart from major and minor for their anthem?

I see countries just use either the major or minor scale. But I'm wondering if someone knows of a country that uses another mode (apart from major and minor scale) for their anthem?
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Questions about hexachord on p.31 of the Study of Counterpoint

p. 31 of The Study of Counterpoint by Johann Joseph Fux (translated by Alfred Mann) says: I don't understand what this page is telling us. I understand what a hexachord is. However, why note is G not ...
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How can a scale sound sadder/darker than the scale with the same key signature?

There is a general principle used to describe the intensity of a mode. The more flat notes there are in the formula of the mode, the darker it sounds. So the Locrian scale is the saddest/darkest mode, ...
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How to know which key a song is written in with the same key signature?

How to know which key a song is written in with the same key signature ? For example, the C Lydian scale has the same key signature as G major (G Ionian) AND E (natural) minor (E Aeolian) which makes ...
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What is the a way to borrow a minor #3 chord into a minor scale?

I need an Dm chord in a song I'm analyzing, which is in C#m, however the software I'm using (Hookpad/Hooktheory) doesn't support key signature changes and thus I have to work around this by borrowing ...
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Modes of the “major scale” or modes of the “diatonic scale”?

I'm doing some studying and I think I have a solid grasp on how the diatonic scale was formed, and how it naturally has 7 modes depending on which note you declare to be the tonic. However, all over ...
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Playing E Aeolian over B Aeolian progression?

I have this simple Bm G F#m Bm / Bm G F#7 Bm chord progression. AFAIK, that means I'm in B Aeolian (in the key of D major) - plus that F#7 dominant chord that would put me briefly in B harmonic minor? ...
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“Tonal Tones” and “Modal Tones” - what do they mean?

Robert Rawlins in his Jazzology: The Encyclopedia of Jazz Theory for All Musicians shows this chart, in his discussion about the modes of the major scale: Rawlins doesn't seem to offer a clear ...
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What is the name of the scale E, F#, G, A, B, C, D#?

I am fairly new to music theory, and I came across this kind of scale from a piano piece. From what I can tell, this is just e minor with a sharp d. What would this scale be called?
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Having a set of notes from a song how can I find out the right key which is written in, from the possible ones (considering modes) that fit those?

Having a set of notes that fit in both the G major scale and D mixolydian scale how can I find out which key is it in? What if it's hard to even find the tonic, because maybe it is rarely used?
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Why did Beethoven include “in the Lydian Mode” in the title of String Quartet, Op.132 - 3?

Beethoven himself gave a title to String Quartet No.15 in A minor, Op.132 - 3: A Convalescent's Holy Song of Thanksgiving to the Divinity, in the Lydian Mode From the language and context, and ...
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Evil Twins? Modes vs Mirrors

I noticed that the algorithm for Phyrgian mode is the mirror image of that for Ionian: (Numbers indicate count of chromatic tones - 'semitones') Ionian: Root->2-2-1-2-2-2-1:Root Phyrgian: ...
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Can one build a harmonies over mixolydian, as we build harmonies over major and minor?

I was wondering recently, whether mixolydian, lacking the lead tone but otherwise being very similar to major (ionic), was a scale we could use for writing whole songs in. In Jazz theory, the basic ...
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What are modes in series?

I've been reading the explanation to the question about the difference between the term tonal center and guide tone and came across the statement that modes can be in parallel or series. Please ...
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Certain frets sound good with respect to one another

A while ago I found an electric guitar. I've just been making up my own stuff on it, and I haven't been reading any tab, or playing chords or anything. But I found myself curious of something. ...
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Modal Chord Families

Lately I came here with a question about modal II-V patterns and my answers were varied. I'm very confused about modal chord families and I can't find a single book or page on the internet anywhere. I'...
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Modal II-V Patterns

So II-V7 patterns occur when a minor seventh and a dominant seventh are a fourth apart or when a minor seventh moves to a dominant seventh with root motion that moves down by half step. This all being ...
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What scales and or modes are used in rebetiko?

What scales and / or modes are traditionally used in rebetiko music?
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Modes over II-V-I

I was listening to a piece and the bassist talked about playing several different modes over certain chords. For example, over the first chord he was playing in D Dorian, obviously because it's a ...
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How to play improvisation using modes ? [closed]

for example if i start to play in F Lydian , what the last note should i landed to finish the melody in the chord changes ? is it the 1st , 5th , or any other suggestion ?
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2-5-1 Jazz progression and modes

I am classically trained and just started looking into jazz theory. I understand that the 2-5-1 progression is a good place to start. My basic understanding is to play the above progression with ...
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Why Locrian #2?

A scale built off the 6th degree of the jazz melodic minor (C-D-Eb-F-G-A-B-C) is spelled like this: A-B-C-D-Eb-F-G Paraphrasing Mark Levine's Jazz Theory Book, Chapter 3 - Modes of the Melodic ...
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Locrian mode and power chords

I'm studying in an online game music course, and I'm experimenting Modes to add unusual sound to the music. I'm a complete newbie in music. So let's have the Locrian mode, the root chord is a dimished ...
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Distinguishing the semantics of modes and scales. When to say scale vs. when to say mode?

Correct me if I am wrong: While scales are different from modes, they can share the same notes (C major and D dorian). However, they can completely shift its tonality. Say I play a melody in C Ionian, ...
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How to modulate from one mode to the next

Is there an established way to choose what mode/key to modulate to from the mode the composer is currently using? Modulating from C major to F major or G major, for instance, is "easy" because there ...
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How long to improvise on modes

How long should I improvise on modes? If I stay too long on a mode, I fear that will sound repetitive. At the same time, I feel like modes are meant to be stayed on for quite a while, or else the ...
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How to hear modes in music

How can I learn to "hear" modes in music? I feel like I have not developed my modal hearing sufficiently, and everything just sounds major or minor to me. Perhaps it's the genre of music I listen to (...
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Fingering for modes on the piano

I'm a self-taught pianist. I know how to play all the major and minor scales, so I believe I can progress to modes. How should I practice modes on the piano? Should I just use the fingering for the ...
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Distinction between Mode and Key [duplicate]

I am a little confused on the distinction between mode and key. If I see a lot of F#s (not in the key signature) and Cs, is it correct to say I am in C lydian mode but still in C major key? Moreover, ...
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How many different scales based on the modes are there?

Beginner here. So far, I have understood that a scale is an ordered subset of the twelve main notes. Consequently, a scale can be described by a pattern of half steps and whole steps along with a ...
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Do modes have a purpose on-stage? [duplicate]

NOTE: This question CANNOT be deleted by me (Ethan Cannoy). I was going to delete it, but since it has answers what happens to it is out of my hands. I would request, however, that you do not downvote ...
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Augmented dominant seventh chord = what scale?

An easy example: C+7 = C E G# Bb What scale would this thing come from? When playing it it sounds lydian to me, not so much dominant. Same notes rewritten: E+7#11 = E G# B# A# my best guess ...
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What's the value of modes?

Let's say we have a progression where all of the chords fit within traditional diatonic harmony. Maybe something like this: | E♭Maj♯11 | Cmin7 | F7 | B♭Maj | All of these chords fit ...
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What mode to use over this progression?

I am currently starting to understand the theory behind music and I'm trying to figure out the best approach to playing modes over chord progressions. I have to play a song where the bridge ...
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Available Tensions for Modal Scale Degrees

I have a bit of a tricky topic here. I've been getting into bebop progressions, and I'm really enjoying myself. However the one thing I was missing was those nice lush chords you come by every so ...
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Why to learn more than one scale positions

This is a question i ask time and time again and no one is able to answer it. Why to learn more than one scale positions (boxes) on the guitar? Every box sounds exactly the same! People say i can ...
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What scales can you get modes from?

I know the modes from the major scale pretty well, and I've come to know that other scales like the melodic minor scales also has modes. So my question is, what other scales can modes be based off of ...
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Tension of Degrees Within Modal Chord Progressions

So this may be because a lack of understanding on my part when it comes to tension and release. But for some odd reason I just can't get my ear to work with me on it. So, when it comes to tension and ...

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