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Formal analysis is used to describe the large-scale pacing of a musical work.

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Can you write sonatas as a waltz?

I'm currently writing a sonata, and if I write the first movement normally with exposition, development and recap, but in 3/4 time and with that typical mm-BAP-BAP rhythm, would you still consider it ...
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Term for a musical section

I'm looking for the term for a a long, unique intro in a tune. It was prevalent in the mid-20th century in musicals and the like.
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How to tell the beginning and ends of phrases when there is no significant rest in the music?

I can't figure out where the phrases are in this piece of music and I am expected to draw brackets over them. There is no real rest or pause so I looked at where there is an end on the tonic note and ...
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How do I start a new phrase whilst modulating? [closed]

Hi guys, I have recently been composing and have run into an issue. I have finished a section with a perfect cadence (bar 52), and I would like to change to the subdominant key for the next phrase (...
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formal and harmonic analysis : Bortkiewicz op.40 n.4

I am trying to analyze a Bortkiewicz prelude, op. 40 n.4 in F# major, but I have some doubts. I divided the prelude into three parts: part A (bars 1-11) part B (bars 12-20) part A' (bar 21-29) coda (...
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What is the examples of frequency (pitch) in elements of audio [closed]

What is the examples of frequency pitch?
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First Movement of Mozart's Horn Concerto no. 2, is it Sonata Form or Rondo Form?

So, I have come across an atypically structured first movement in Mozart's Horn Concerto no. 2 in Eb and I'm wondering if it is Sonata Form or Rondo Form, because it seems to have some characteristics ...
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How to balance my phrase structure? [closed]

I'm trying to compose a verse (with refrain?)-chorus (bridge?) pop song (optional: Instrumental intro, bridge before the final chorus, instrumental solo somewhere) about 3-4 minutes in length. I've ...
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What is the relation of proportional schemes and the "golden section" to melody?

...And how is this reduction meant to be read? Taken from p. 66 of David Neumeyer's The Music of Paul Hindemith This is the beginning of the section on analyzing melodies, and it totally blindsided ...
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What is the difference between "32 bar form", "song form", and "ternary" with a repeated first section?

There are separate wikipedia articles for 32 bar form, but song form and ternary are in one article. From my understanding, repeats do not change the form in terms of classification, which is ...
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What are some techniques used to make a song sound more cinematic or invoke imagery in the listener?

Maybe cinematic is the wrong word to use(?). But techniques that might evoke imagery in the listener? Maybe for example: I know this is highly subjective and there’s ...
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What would you call these song sections between the Verse and the Pre-Chorus?

I have attempted to identify the sections of this song, but I am not sure what to call the section between the Verse and the Pre-Chorus. I have labelled it as the Refrain. Is this correct? [Verse] I ...
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In your opinion, what song structure does Glasvegas's "Geraldine" follow?

I would argue that the song "Geraldine" by Glasvegas (embedded below) follows an AABA structure, as there is variation in the second A repeat; however, a melody from the original repeats ...
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Analysis of Sonata form [duplicate]

I’m about to take my level 10 Harmony exam and I’m still kind of unsure about Sonata Form. Could someone give a (brief?) explanation of it? The textbook that I use does have a good explanation, but I’...
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Form in Mozart's Trio in B-flat Major K.502 I. Allegro

I cannot for the life of me figure out what the form is in Mozart's Trio in B-flat Major K.502, in the first movement. The continuously repeated theme leads me to believe that it would be some type of ...
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Horse hooves sound in the song background

I would like to know how the Horse hooves sound is recorded and played in the above songs URL? What are the sound recording & playback techniques to achieve this? Is it possible to extract only ...
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A vocalist musician beginner: hearing song structure

How to tell the parts of a song when I hear a beat? I mean if I find a beat that I love, how can I tell in which seconds the chorus, verses,bridge...? For example, what distinguishes the different ...
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Why is Fur Elise so heavy?

Fur Elise is a bagatelle, which means it should be light, lovely and mild. However, the second and third movement of Fur Elise isn't light at all. Why is it?
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Is there a name for this kind of a transition in songs?

In ALL ABOUT THAT BASE parody (Star Wars Parody - Meghan Trainor's All About That Bass), there's a certain transition / change near the linked time after "places" (the video has lyrics shown)...
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Middle 8 Confusion in "Yesterday"

In my understanding the middle 8 should provide contrast to a song with verse/refrain form. From the titles i've looked at, many middle 8's (and more generally, bridges) end on dominant harmony to ...
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¿What textbook do you suggest to study counterpoint? [closed]

Counterpoint is very important to raise skills in music composition and improvisation. What method or publication do you suggest?
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Is there a definitive list of forms for classical music?

I am creating a classical Music song scraper, that takes disparate file names, ascertains its properties, and rewrites their titles in a uniform way and identifiable way. Some examples of the ...
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What is sufficient information to identify a classical music piece?

I am a software engineer, and I am downloading Public Domain Classical Music. The original filenames are an inconsistent mess, and I would like to correct that. I have some metadata at my disposal, ...
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What differs between the rondo and its Baroque counterpart, the ritornello?

So, ever since I heard the term ritornello, I have wondered what makes it different from the rondo. So I’ve listened to several pieces in ritornello form to try to find the difference, but I couldn’t. ...
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Which measures make up Beethoven Symphony No 5 Mvt 4 Opening?

I am preparing for a timpani audition at a local symphony and one of the excerpts is listed as, "Beethoven Symphony No. 5, Mvt 4, Opening." Is there a specific length of the opening? Perhaps the ...
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Where to cut off a sonata theme for Theme and Variations?

I am thinking of writing a Theme and Variations based on a sonata. With sonatas, I tend to gravitate towards the first movement, which is most often in sonata form, and this poses a bit of a problem. ...
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chorus construction in pop and rock

At the moment, I feel like my choruses are, in fact, just a slight and arbitrary variation in harmony from the verse. Switch to the ride cymbal and maybe play straight eight notes on the guitars, and ...
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Example of antecedent and consequent phrase with chords?

I am having trouble understanding the antecedent phrase (ends with a weak cadence) and the consequent phrase (ends with a strong cadence) (first and second parts, respectively of the "period") in the ...
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Is the Presto in Mozart's Divertimento in D in Ternary form or a Rondo?

I thought I had this settled in my mind that the Presto movement in Mozart's Divertimento in D is a Rondo. But the form of the movement is this: [: A :][: BA :] Where: A - Homophonic texture(...
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Dance of Nature Finale - Would Theme and Variations fit the best?

So I have been thinking about another piece lately, this one being a multi-movement work related to nature. I'm not sure if this will turn out to be a symphony or not. I certainly seem to be getting a ...
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Are Mazurkas a folk or classical form of music? I am asking from an ethnomusicological perspective

I am taking a course in ethnomusicology and I am asking this question from an anthropological perspective. I have to make a presentation on a folk music form from Europe and since I have learned a few ...
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Music theory-Ornaments-TURN [closed]

Which of the given options would be correct for the turn ornament shown in the piece of music.
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Problems composing transitions and bridge passages

Background: I have been composing orchestral sketches (non-professionally) for some time now. I see the progress and notice, that everything becomes much simpler after practicing multiple hours a day (...
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What are the characteristics of Late Romantic Russian Music?

I've been recently listening to some late Romantic Russian music (Lyapunov, Kalinnikov, Tchaikovsky, etc.) and was wondering how best to mimic this style. So far, I've observed a handful of shared ...
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How can I keep the piece coherent when I have the rhythm of a Waltz and the form of a Sonata?

I just had this idea come to mind after I analyzed Grande Valse Brillante Op. 18 and asked if it was in Sonata form. What if I combine the Waltz and the Sonata? Here is my proposed form for the piece: ...
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Can a Rondo also be a Theme and Variations?

I am composing a piece that I have nicknamed "The March of a Hero" and I noticed something. If I separate the piece out into sections, I get this: Introduction - A few slow arpeggios to introduce the ...
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How does Sonata Form fit into a Waltz?

After analyzing Grande Valse Brillante Op. 18, I noticed something about the form of the waltz. I thought at first, that this waltz by Chopin is in ternary form, like most dance pieces. However, there ...
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In what form are the pieces "12 Days of Christmas" and "Green Grow the Rushes-O"?

The two pieces in the title share similar forms. I want to know what the name for this form is, if there is one. Basically, the form appears to be a repetition with an additional numbered fragment ...
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Composing a polonaise, anything else to consider?

So the thought has came to me several times to write a polonaise. I'm not Polish so I barely know anything about that side of the polonaise. But so far I have come across these commonalities across ...
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Can bagatelles be in Sonata Form?

I am composing a bagatelle and it is turning out to be sort of a hybrid between your typical bagatelle and a sonata. However, even once the piece is finished, it would be too short for me to put ...
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Eighth Slash Notes for a Simile

I know that if you want to make a SIMILE part, you can put as my picture, quarter notes then convert in Sibelius to SLASH NOTATION and enter the text that says SIMILE. Here is the photo: https://ibb....
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song form in pop/rock music

I am stuck with one of my songs, and I believe this question relates to form--an area which I don't know much about. The form of the song was as follows: Intro Verse Bridge Chorus This part is then ...
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What are Antecedent & Consequent Phrases in Music?

I've never heard the terms before: Antecedent and consequent phrases they seem to be elements of a period. It seems to be evident that I am not the only one ...
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Are there any sonatas with only two sections?

In a classical sense, the Sonata is a structure composed of three sections: exposition, development, and recapitulation. Are there any examples of a Sonata with only two sections?
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Is the divertimento a freeform sonata?

So, I once looked up divertimento and what it means and I was told that it can have anywhere from 2 to 10 movements. The fact that it mentioned movements made me think: Okay, so it is a sonata ...
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When improvising should one have a musical form in mind?

Sometimes I'll take one of my instruments and I'll just randomly improvise on something. It could be some kind of scale, or switching between scales, I might take a few chords from the scale. But I ...
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Is there a name for songs whose lyrics are sung through twice?

Some songs just have their lyrics sung through from beginning to end twice - usually with a key change for the second time through. Is there a name for that? I am thinking of "The Impossible Dream" (...
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Combining forms to make a new musical form

Has there ever been a composer between Baroque and early Romantic periods (within piano literature) who created a new form based on a combination of previously separate forms into a new iteration or ...
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If fugue voices are in different keys how come they don't clash?

I was reading how a fugue plays simultaneous voices in different keys (?) I was wondering how they don't clash with each other. Or to put it in another way, what keys can you play together such that ...
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Help/Question about Microphone / Phantom power and audio interface

Just a quick short question, I have a USB audio interface (emu0202) which plugs into my pc but of course, the interface (emu0202) isn't 'Phantom Power' capable, So I wanted to know if it's possible ...