Questions tagged [polyrhythm]

Polyrhythm is the simultaneous use of two or more conflicting rhythms, that are not readily perceived as deriving from one another, or as simple manifestations of the same meter.

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Polymeter vs Polyrhythm

What is the difference between a polymeter and a polyrhythm? Do these words mean anything different for different instruments? PS: I'm a drummer.
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Triplets against twos in Bach's music

I was reading up on tuplets and polyrhythms because I was having trouble playing some of Bach's keyboard works containing three-against-two rhythms. Then I found something interesting: (...) It is ...
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What's this rhythm called?

I often hear this rhythm in accompaniments in contemporary music: |x---x---x---x---| Beat |--x--x--x--x--x-| Lead 1.:.2.:.3.:.4.:. That is, it's a 4:3 polyrhythm but with a single quarter note ...
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Samba percussion for songwriters

I'm a song-writer (a guitar player) and I need to write drum parts for myself. I discovered how cool the brazilian samba carnival percussion is (not the watered down European jazz-samba), but haven't ...
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Unifying/Formalizing the ideas of cross-rhythm, polyrhythm and hypermeter

I am interested in the notions of polyrhythm, cross-rhythm, and hypermeter, including acquiring more mathematically based concepts that can aid in quality music production. I have done extensive ...
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Learn music with odd rhythms

I've always had problems with tuplets (3/2, 4/3, etc), until I was taught this nifty trick: subdivide the total duration (4 quartuplets, 3 triplets, etc) by the least common multiple (12, for 4/3) ...
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How to count odd tuplets?

When I first learned how to play music I learned how to play the drums, and thus rhythm was the first thing I knew about music. I still feel like it was best to learn rhythm before pitch, melody, ...
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How should I practice the piano piece Fantaisie-Impromptu?

It has always been a childhood dream of mine to play well the piano piece Fantaisie-Impromptu. Unfortunately, I was not able to learn the piece with my piano teacher while I was learning the piano. ...
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How can I develop mastery of polyrhythms in playing guitar?

(I am asking this question because someone just posted a question which misused the term "polyrhythm", and subsequently, on realizing the mistake, edited the question to reflect their real question -- ...
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How does one analyze tricky time shifts?

It can be hard to analyze time changes if one isn't used to odd rhythms. If we take a section of the track Divine Moments of Truth by Shpongle as an example, since it's changing timing several times (...
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How to play this passage precisely?

I have got trouble playing this passage with both hands. I can play the hands separately, but can't join them together. I have tried really slowing it down, but the rhythm is too complicated for me to ...
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What is the difference between syncopation and poly-rhythm?

My understand is that syncopation works in the same time signature, but polyrhythm introduces a new time signature. For example: Syncopation would be when a piece is in 4/4 and the lead soloist ...
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How can I count 17 against 3 polyrhythm?

Somewhat related to my earlier question: Phrase to help count 3 groups of 17? How can I count a 17 against 3 polyrhythm (to help me play it)? Here's a little sound file I made of it in FL Studio ...
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Is “Polyrhythm” a melodic principle?

Wikipedia defines polyrhythm as “the simultaneous use of two or more conflicting rhythms” and reports “Sub-Saharan instruments are constructed in a variety of ways to generate polyrhythmic melodies. ...
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What’s going on with the rhythm in the first half of Spiral Staircase by Luke Vibert

I assume this is some sort of polyrhythm but my brain refuses to be able to count it. Can someone shed some light on whats going on? The song in question:
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What are best practices surrounding polymetric music notation?

I'm writing a piece that has a 13/16 ostinato in it. However, the melodies aren't going to make any effort to have their downbeats line up with the ostinato. What are the best practices regarding ...
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How do 'meter' and 'rhythm' affect the choice of 'Polymeter' and 'Polyrhythm'?

I use chevrons (⟨⟩) to denote the concept behind the word. [ Source :] Meter is the rhythmic structure of the music. For example, a piece of music could be in 4/4 meter, which is a strong-weak-...
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measures numeration in polymetre

In polymetre and/or poly-tempo music, measures count in staves may be unequal. How measures should be numerated? Each stave have separate numeration?
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Nested polyrhythms

In my research on polyrhythms I have discovered the term "nested polyrhythm" with regard to some of Frank Zappa's works. I have not been able to find a clear definition of it or any examples. Would ...
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How to count polyrhythm 3 against 4 in common time?

Polyrhythm 4:3 in 3/4 meter can be "inverted" to 3:4 in 4/4 meter, like this... ...the notation is easy enough to write, because we can use tuplets to gloss over the division problem. Converting ...
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What is a seven-thirtieth note in Henry Cowell 's music theory?

On page 100 in Henry Cowell's book (PDF here) there is an explanation centered around C-C# (C#) contained with in a whole note has four and two-seveths vibrations per second and it will be found ...
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What are these kinds of rhythms called? [duplicate]

I've noticed that these kinds of rhythms seem to be extremely common in popular music: X: 1 M: 4/4 L: 1/16 K: C c3c3c2 c3c3c2|c3c3c3c3c2c2| The example in the first bar appears to be a 2 over 3 ...
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how to line up these notes, the 4 over the 3 [duplicate]

I imagine the F and D would be played together but what about the others? (2 Cs and a B flat in the group of 4 and the A and C of the triplet).
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Composition of Cowell's “rhythmic key changes”

I'm currently reading Henry Cowell's New Musical Resources and On page 98, Section 6,(TEMPO) in part 2 (RHYTHM), is a paragraph of for instances. Directly, I'm grappling with the SECOND FOR INSTANCE ....
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Why if tons of polyphony are not necessary, many brands claim that to more polyphony better samples (sounds)?

It's true. Hundred times I heard about the polyphony is gravital to experience top end sounds in professional keyboards. It is not only a matter of how many keys you are playing at the same time but, ...
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Fitting melodies to beats!

OK, need a head's up so I can practice this: the basic technique for fitting a tune to a beat. Take, for example, Red Red Wine. UB40 did it as a reggae song. I've heard it as a blues ballad, a pop ...
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Accelerando in poly-tempo

The question is - does accelerando used in parts with different tempo? How to rhythmically align them after that / during that? (Without accelerando it would be enough to keep parts tempo at some ...
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How to play fantasie impromptu by Chopin?

I can play Chopin's fantasie impromptu at low tempo, but I'm having trouble when increasing the tempo. My fingers don't move smoothly over 130 bpm and some notes get skipped automatically and ...
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How to determine the time signature of a polyrhythm with two parts?

The band Meshuggah has a straightforward approach to polyrhythms. There's also a base which is 4/4 and then some other count which plays N times then repeats exactly on the 1 of the base. it'll be ...
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How to recognise polyrhythm in a piece

I came across a part I found really interesting and quite challenging to my piano level in the piece Arabesque No.1 in E major by Claude Debussy, where both hands seems to not follow the same time ...
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How might I transition from a sad sounding 4/4 time signature to a more upbeat 12/8? [closed]

i am currently writing a song, and I need to pass between a very sad sounding 4/4 time signature, to a 12/8 time signature, which is a more happy sounding time signature. I am not willing to change ...