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How does one analyze a song that moves primarily between two non-diatonic chords?

The score for 'The Simple Life' by Jerry Martin indicates three flats, which would typically mean either Eb major or C minor. However, almost the entire song just moves back and forth between Bb major ...
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How was mixolidian mode introduced in Northeastern Brazilian Music?

Northeastern region of Brazil has a great variety of traditional and folkloric music genres. The most well-known genre is forró, followed also by baião and xaxado. These music genres are usually ...
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How do you exactly notate in 31-TET?

So I always wanted to compose a song in 31-TET inspired by a song I heard on musescore some months ago, the thing is that I didnt know how to notate in 31-TET, so obviously i want to learn.
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Is it possible to distinguish if a melody is in C Dorian or in D Phrygian?

(This is my first post in this community, I tried to search an answer about that basic question but it's not easy, so sorry if it is a duplicate) Since the C Dorian scale contains the following notes: ...
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Categorizing modes of scales other than major scale

Modes of major scale are often ordered such that each consecutive scale can be obtained by altering one step of the previous one: lydian 1 2 3 #4 5 6 7 ionian 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ...
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What scale repeats by every fourth?

I've stumbled across this in my own compositions and I'm sure I've heard songs on the radio do this. The simplest way to describe this is to take a regular piano and paint the keys so that there's ...
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Precise rule(s) for calling a note sharp or flat in a given scale

Is there a precise rule (or set of rules) by which I can determine if a note should called sharp or flat? Consider the two scales below. In the first C#/Db is C#, and in the second it's Db. By which ...
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What scales can be augmented?

I am working on an app that generates scales & chords and recently began work specifically on augmented chords. It appears to me as though augmented chords are derived from the Lydian augmented ...
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What scale does contain these notes?? E, F#,G,A,B,C,D [closed]

As I was going to compose a song I wanted to know what scale contains these notes? E,F#,G,A,B,C,D.
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How to use sus2/sus4/add9 in minor key to stay within the key

I understand how to use sus2/sus4 and add9 inn major to keep all notes within the chosen major scale, but how can I use the same chords in a minor key and still stay in key?
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Best type/way of scale to start practicing and how to move on? [duplicate]

Learning for past 8 months.. chords are coming up well.. trying now to learn scales (after knowing those are the foundation)... Started with E chromatic scale (2 octaves across first 4 frets) with ...
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Why are “scales” mentioned less to singers and more to guitar players?

Scales are still confusing to me. When I sing I don't know anything about scales. Nobody suggests me to sing in mixolydian, phrygian or anything like that. But, when I play guitar, it is very ...
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Comparing the same song sung in different key

I am not sure if my question makes sense to the most learned musicians, I still would like to get one simple thing clarified, and I must admit that I did search about this everywhere but there was no ...
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Usage of Melodic Minor instead of Harmonic Minor on Secondary Dominant

Recently I watched this video which discusses secondary dominants and specifically for the case of A II - V - I in the key of C. They play a secondary dominant for the II chord, so they are playing an ...
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What characteristics of a piece contribute to defining its tonal centre?

I have been wondering since a long time that what exactly in a piece defines the scale and the tonal center. Even if we are given a chord progression that is followed through the entirety of the song, ...
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Does the 6 in minor come from dorian mode or from the melodic minor?

Lots of songs use both natural 6 degree and b6 in the same piece. Originally the raised 6th in minor was to close the gap between the 6 & 7 scale degrees in harmonic minor at a cadence but since ...
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Definition of a step in the (melodic) minor scale? (According to the definition in Kostka - Tonal Harmony and examples therein)

The short version of my question is: Assuming the definition of the minor scale in Kostka's Tonal Harmony textbook (Eighth edition, chapter 4), which is that: there is, in a sense, one minor scale ...
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Relative and absolute tones: does this really make the difference?

Often, in improvisation, you think of the notes of the scale not as the actual notes you are playing but as the notes of the C scale. The concept I'm talking about is that of the movable C, or ...
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Are there two leading tones?

I always took the leading tone to be the 7th degree (the "subtonic") scale degree. According to author David Neumeyer (The Music of Paul Hindemith), there is another? See the following ...
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What BPM should I aim for while learning all the minor scales?

I'm learning to play the minor versions of each scale. What BPM should I aim for, before I move onto the next scale?
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In major keys, since the 7th scale degree resolves up to the 8th, does descending through the scale degrees 8-7-6 violate the leading tone rule?

I need to understand how the leading tone (7th scale degree) functions in major keys. I see that the 7th scale degree (leading tone) resolves up to the 8th (the tonic) because the leading tone is a ...
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How does Eb connect musically to C major chord progression like in this song?

Im learning basic music theory and chord progression then I stumbled upon this song (You are my song by Martin Nievera) : From my understanding, the first 2 lines are simply C major chord ...
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Why is the Dominant 7th based on the Diatonic Scale?

I understand that the Dominant 7th chord as a structure is called like that because its chord structure is playable from the Dominant in a Diatonic scale. However, I noticed that the same structure is ...
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Is the difference between key and scales just unordered vs. ordered pitches? [duplicate]

Hi guys I was trying to understand the relationship between keys and scales, from what I understood starting from the basic pitch: A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# if we start from one and take WWHWWWH we ...
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Help with identifying scales from track [closed]

I've been studying basic drumming, and found this track on YouTube, Prog Metal - Drumless Track For Drummers - "Reckoning". The tempo is 175 BPM, so to be able to listen to the notes, I slow ...
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Why Sonata No. 16 K. 545 by Mozart is told to be done in C Major [closed]

I have seen an analysis of Sonata No. 16 K. 545 by Mozart here: https://www.libertyparkmusic.com/discover-key-music-part-1/image-2-highlights-and-circles-sonata-no-16-in-c-major-k-545/ May I know why ...
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Is there a name for the octatonic scale made from the first sixteen harmonics? And is it good for anything?

When the first sixteen harmonics are octave-displaced and compressed into the span of one octave, the result is an octatonic scale whose pitches have the following frequency ratios: 1 9:8 5:4 (a.k.a. ...
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Finding key of a song with accidentals

I have a very basic understanding of keys / scales and am a keyboard hobbyist. Every now and then I try to find the notes of a song by ear. The problem I sometimes face is with identifying key/scale ...
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What is the relationship between the 5th and minor 7th in dominant chords?

I've been trying to understand the theory behind dominant sevenths and have been reading a lot of articles. There's just one thing I couldn't understand-- the basic relationship of the minor 7th to ...
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Learning path advices

I played guitar for a while 10 years ago, but I never learned music. I was only playing the songs that I wanted to play by following YouTube videos. I know I have to learn music to be able to ...
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A natural minor scale with raised fourth

Good day I am trying to understand what scale/mode is created by raising the fourth of a natural minor. It sounds quite dark. I understand that natural minor is the Aeolian mode of the major scales, ...
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What is a name of a major scale with raised 2nd degree?

Assuming a major scale that has a raised 2nd degree and no other alterations: 1 ♯2 3 4 5 6 7 (8) (for example, in C it will be C D♯ E F G A B (C)). This is a bit unusual due to 2 consecutive semitones ...
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What is a scale consisting of Root, m2, m3, P4, b5, M6, m7 called?

For example: A, A#, C, D, D#, F#, G ? Is it an actual known scale? I hear it implied a lot, played over secondary dominants (such as over the transition from the VI to the II in a I-VI-ii-V-I or I-VI-...
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Unconventional approaches for learning to play scales? [closed]

I'm a guitar player who started learning theory a bit later down the road, and there is a practical issue that I can't figure out how exactly to tackle. That would be scales, more precisely, the ...
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Are the names of scale degrees the same for different modes?

Do the naming conventions and their implied function still apply to modes outside the major and minor scale?Is the minor second of the Phrygian mode called the supertonic?Is the augmented fourth of ...
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Chord-Scale Theory: Determine chord qualities

I started to learn about the chord-scale theory lately which i find quite interesting. I came across this table of modes (scales) and their corresponding chords: Chord-Scales of the Major Modes: ...
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Why is there no fourth minor scale with a natural 6 and a flat 7?

These scales are considered the minor scales: natural: 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 harmonic: 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 7 melodic: 1 2 b3 4 5 6 7 (ascending) However, this scale: 4th min: 1 2 b3 4 5 6 ...
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Is there a theory of heptatonic scales with 1.5-step intervals?

I've been alternating between reading about music theory on Wikipedia and playing around with the scales that I've learned. The "modern Western modes" are defined systematically with their ...
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When writing harmonic/melodic scales without a key signature, is it bad practice to put a natural sign?

Question is in the title, assuming I'm writing say a f harmonic minor scale WITHOUT a key signature at the beginning. Is it more correct to emphasize that the E should be natural and not Eb by a ...
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The bassline for The Choice is Yours doesn't fit into any known scale; is there a term or theory for what it does? [duplicate]

This started when TuneBat had several different guesses as to what key "The Choice Is Yours" by Black Sheep is in. There is basically only one bassline through the whole track, and little ...
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Starting scales on piano [closed]

I’ve been playing the piano for about 5 years so scales have become a kind of second nature to me. I’m currently playing 3 and 4 notes per tick at 92 for my scales. But this year I have had trouble ...
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Is there such a thing as a stable or unstable tone in scales?

I'm writing a song in 4/4 in A major, and my melody ends first on the 7th degree leading tone (G#) and then the second time on the 6th degree (F#). These are supposed to be unstable tones, yet if I ...
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Why is the key signature completely different from the actual notes?

Beginner here. So, I wanted to play this little phrase that is written, supposedly, in A major with 3 sharps on F, C and G. However, every G has a natural sign and there's a B and a E with sharps (no ...
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Are pop/rock songs ever written using the melodic minor scale?

I am learning a pop song that was famous about a decade ago and starts on an F chord for a few bars before going to the following descending chord progression. F Eb Dm7 Bbm/Db The second time the ...
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Does the starting note for a song have to be the starting note of its scale?

Does a scale always have to start off with the note it is named after? For example, the Dm scale is defgab♭cd`. If I wanted to sing a song in D minor, would I have to start with the note D? Or could ...
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C or D scales for x15 notes tongue drum? [closed]

I am hoping to get a 15notes tongue drum but need advise on which one to get. Some sites advertised as having C scales and other D scales and I don't know which one to get. Appreciate advice.
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How to find scales to improvise with for “How Insensitive” by Jobim

I am pretty new to improvisation. So far I have improvised over a 2 5 1 change using the diatonic 7th chords and the underlying scale tones that fit in with that chord. I am playing on a guitar. As a ...
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What is the audible difference between a song written in A Natural Minor scale and a C Major scale? [duplicate]

I started taking music classes to try to learn some theory. I learnt there's something called a major scale. But today, Youtube recommended a video called Minor Scales, so I clicked on it. The video ...
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Any good methods to memorise scales? [duplicate]

I'm a beginning music student interested in learning music theory, and many texts that I've read speak about the importance of committing scales - at least the major and three common minor ones for ...
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How to break out of playing scales up and down when improvising

I play piano, and when I am playing a gospel or a blues song, I always improvise with my right hand. I have been practicing major scales and pentatonic scales for a while now, and when I play, i ...

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