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Can anyone give me examples of early uses of the dominant seventh chord?

It is well known (since Fetis) that the first appearance of the unprepared seventh in the dominant seventh chord is in Monteverdi's madrigal "Cruda amarilli". That sets the origin of this ...
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Resolving chordal 7ths (Maj7, min7, V7, etc.) (melodic vs harmonic tendency)

I'm aware of "melodic" tendencies, where [2-4-6] all usually resolve down & [7] usually resolves up. But I cannot find any resources that explain WHY chordal 7ths, when dealing with ...
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When do you include the bass note of a chord if the bass is the b9?

I'm writing chords for a pop piano part (so definitely want to follow what is more intuitive for pop/jazz players rather than sticking hard to the music theory books). The chord in the right hand is a ...
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Preparation of I7 second inversion in minor

The image above (from Korean composer Byung Dong Paik's Theory of Harmonics, page 139) shows progressions 7th chords(I7), and inversion The book explains that such a process on the second image cannot ...
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What is the principle of I46 progression to I7?

The above image is called a secondary 7th chord solution by Anton Bruckner. But there is an I46 there, and there are many ways to use the I46, but I've never seen it used this way, so I don't know why ...
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weird way resolution and preparing of 7th note in 7 chord

i read a part of book of Theory of Harmony (i'm not read entire book because just some guy scanning book for me for answer my question) and i saw so many weird resolution and preparing of 7 tone in 7 ...
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When to use 6/9 chords instead of seventh chords

I'm learning jazz piano from the internet, and recently I learned comping the song 'But Not For Me' with a walking bass in the left hand and the harmony in the right hand. In the tutorial, my teacher ...
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Four part writing: How to treat the 7th over static harmony?

My example: The harmony in bar 28 is C sharp half dim 7. On the off beat of beat 2, I have root C sharp (repeated harmony note- tenor part [alto clef]), sounding at the same time as the 7th B (aux ...
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Unresolved, non-dominant sevenths in SATB chorale harmony

I'm working on taking some chorales and their soprano lines out of Bach, and making my own harmonizations/compositions — somewhat more elaborate ones than the typical, straight quarter note exercise. ...
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What is a 7th chord and why is it important?

What is a 7th chord and why is it important? I keep seeing it over and over again and I don't understand why it's important?
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What are "MI7" and "MA7" chords?

Is it correct in this sheet that "A MI 7" means minor 7th (m7), "C MA 7" means major 7th (maj7) and just "C 7" means the dominant 7th?
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Diminished Triad + Major 7th =? [duplicate]

i wanted to ask something related to the 5 types of seventh chords. Specifically in what category would a diminished triad topped with a major seventh fall? Can it be considered a half-diminished 7th? ...
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"When The Sun Goes Down" by Arctic Monkeys Chords

Where do these chords come from in "When the Sun Goes Down" by Arctic Monkeys? The chords do not line up with the key of B. I am confused. Here are the song chords used: B, D#7, Emaj7, D#m, C#m, F#...
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Attempt to make Jazz chord progression on 7-Limit tuning

This is a sequel to this question. Refer to it for the just ratio of the tones. Being septimal, I thought it could be used for Jazz. The chord progression I made is (Based on C): CM7 - F♯ø7 - FM7 - ...
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7-Limit tuned 12 tones? (Revised)

This question is a revision of this question. My theory of harmony was a bit wrong, especially for the G major chord was off. I created a new theory to re-tune the 12 tones. The just ratio of the ...
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7-Limit tuned 12 tones?

I tried to tune the 12 tones differently to gain more harmony. Rather than equal temperament or just intonation, I picked 7-limit tuning. Here're the tones: C = 1/1 C♯ = 21/20 D = 10/9 ...
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How To Build and Name 7th Chords

I am trying to understand how to properly build and name 7th chords, the way of doing this is by adding a major/minor/diminished seventh to a triad, so having 4 chord qualities gives a total of 12 ...
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Preparation of Chordal 7ths in Classical Harmony

What is the proper practice for preparing chordal sevenths in dominant, diminished and other chords in classical 4-part harmony? In The Complete Musician (4th ed.) by Stephen Laitz, he states on page ...
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Why does the first diminished 7th in this progression not resolve?

So, I wrote this pastoral piece and it sounds good to me. One thing I am curious about though is why the first diminished 7th here builds up tension and more specifically why the restatement of C ...
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What is meant by a M next to a roman numeral?

That is, a I or V followed by an M in the superscript.
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In what situations can a seventh be substituted for a triad?

My understanding is that a dominant seventh can be substituted when going from V to I. so V7 to I. But are there any other situations where a seventh chord can be substituted for a triad? I'm mainly ...
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How to practice sevenths?

I'm trying to figure out a good way to add sevenths to my practice. One thing I did with triads is I'd take a scale, and then starting from each note in the scale play the arpeggio for the ...
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Dominant seventh vs Dominant function [duplicate]

I saw how in the major scale the diatonic functions are: I - tonic IV - subdominant V - dominant and the V7 is called a dominant seventh Also in the natural minor scale the diatonic functions are: ...
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Practicing triads/sevenths or both?

For eg, if we are learning the key of C, do we need to Learn all triads ie. ceg, dfa etc or can we just learn 7th chord qualities like CEGB, DFAC etc. and those will indirectly give access to the ...
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How is this bar an example of the rule given in Tonal Counterpoint text?

The rule given in Green and Jones' The Principles and Practice of Tonal Counterpoint is: The seventh may move into another voice before resolving, but when the harmony changes it will almost ...
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Why harmonic seventh seems irrelevant?

I've been learning about the science behind music and came across the harmonic seventh interval as 7:4 ratio. Now we know that it's generally not used in just intonation as well as equal temperament. ...
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How is a secondary dominant used for modulation?

In the Reddit FAQ question How are 7th Chords Used?, the following explanation appears: Dominant 7th chords are also useful in modulation as secondary dominants - the addition of the seventh will ...
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What is the chord: B F# A

So I was analyzing a song on the piano and saw a broken chord with notes B, F# and A (all ascending). Now it looks like root note, perfect fifth and minor seventh. If you add minor third, it becomes ...
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When would you call a 7th chord first inversion a 6th chord?

I read the question C major 6th chord and A minor 7th chord: same notes but different quality, why?, and it talks about the quality of the different chords. But when would you call a 7th chord first ...
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I don't understand dominant 7ths in cadences

I am confused with the following passage: Dominants are associated with a strong urge to resolve to their next chord in the circle of fifths. This particular sequence, E7 A7 Dm (or V7/V-V7-i) ...
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Why “delta” chords?

Why are major seventh chords called delta chords and written with a delta symbol, like CΔ7 or CΔ? Do engravers consistently use Δ to mean a seventh chord (such that Δ7 is redundant) or do some use Δ ...
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What does a neutral 7th lead to (in maqams or in general)?

A dominant 7th leads to a major 6th and a major seventh leads to the tonic, but what does the note in between the two lead to? If you could tell me what the maqam rules for that are, that'd be fine, ...
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The tonic's seventh

The tonic's seventh is both the seventh of the chord and the leading tone of the scale. So what should happen with this seventh if it needs to be raised or lowered?
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