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The rapid alternation between two adjacent notes, usually a semitone or tone apart.

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Trill with “no turn” in Lilypond

I'm looking for the best way to add a “no turn” annotation to a trill. It should be displayed above or below the trill extender line, right-aligned to the end of the extender line.
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What do these circled 7's and 8's mean?

I'm playing Schubert's 3rd impromptu, op. 90 D899. There is a circled number precisely under each trill, shown below, and I don't know how to interpret them. I read here that they might indicate a ...
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Are trills played with triplets to finish them?

In the ABRSM Music Theory in Practice Grade 4 workbook, it suggests repeatedly that trills should be finished with a triplet, i.e Should they be played as such or in a more straight and uniform tempo?...
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How do you distinguish an upper mordent from a trill?

I recently learned of the upper mordent. (first ornament in this image from Wikipedia) To me, it looks identical to the trill from the table of ornaments I'm familiar with: When encountering this ...
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Trills in Clementi Op. 36 No. 1 2nd movement

This is related to this discussion: How to play these trills from Clementi's Sonatina in C Major on piano? My question: is the FG at the end of AGAGFG part of the trill, or is it the one ...
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Accidentals on trills and turns in MusicXML

On trills and turns, in order to change the pitch of the note above or below, in printed music, accidentals are displayed right above or below the trill or turn. I don't see how this is expressed in ...
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Shift trill symbol horizontally in Lilypond

I'm rewriting (with Lilypond) an old copy of Händel's Allemande HWV 437 and I can not recreate the orignial position of the trill symbol. In the original the ornament begins with the note 'b', yet ...
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Creating trill staff in lilypond

I'm learning BWV775 (Bach Invention IV - D Minor) and the score I'm working from has a small extra staff for a trill in measure 17 The treble & bass staves are easy enough in Lilypond, and for ...
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How do I notate an alternate trill?

I have read in this wiki about the alternative trill. However it does not show as a symbol. How do I notate the trill that indicates that a lower note than the one on the sheet should be played in the ...
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Trill notation with a wavy line

There are 2 trill notations: 'tr' and 'tr' followed by a wavy line. What exactly is the difference and when is one used over the other?
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Beethoven Sonata Op. 49 No. 2 Bar 12 trill

I just started learning this piece on my own. I played the trill (red circle) as A G F# G (So with the context it's G AGF#G A. Is it correct? When I listen to the videos played by professionals on ...
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Questions about mordents and trills (piano)

The difference between the symbols of a mordent and a trill is just a tiny vertical bar. Sometimes it could be misread when the print is blurred or too small. Is there a general rule, from the context,...
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Clarinet A/B trill with fuller sound

I am trying to do a trill over the break between the Clarion and Chalumeau registers, between A and B. You are meant to add the upper side key to the A, see e.g. here. This is what the top two ...
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Playing a trill with grace note ending

In measure 36 of the Presto Agitato from Beethoven's Piano Sonata 14 Op 27, No. 2 (Moonlight), a trill is set against semiquavers. The ending of the trill is explicitly marked with semiquaver grace ...
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Keeping count in a solo trill

I am working towards my clarinet Grade 8 and have a few occasions where I have to play an unaccompanied long trill (we're talking a bar or 2). I have always struggled to count trills, however all the ...
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How many notes in a trill?

I’m playing a sonata by Beethoven (op. 78. No. 24 in F# major) and there are two of these trills (see the picture I’ve attached) in the left hand. My question is, how many notes should be in this ...
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Is it possible to play this difficult trill on violin?

There is a line in my violin music where there are two voices: The higher voice is a trill G-Ab on the E string The lower voice is a continuously held Db on the A string held throughout the trill ...
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Trills and Mordents in BWV 926

I don't understand how to play the trills and mordents in Bach's BWV 926. I don't know how to play them in general. Could somebody please help me?
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Descending trill in Chopin's Military Polonaise?

I looked at the sheet music of the Military Polonaise by Chopin that I have. I saw something which looks more difficult than even the fast speed or the octaves. I saw a descending trill. I have never ...
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How to play first trill in Mozart's sonata K576?

How should I play the first trill in Mozart's Piano Sonata No.18 in D major, K.576 ? I am currently playing it like this: (or I may play it as a a triplet in thirty-second notes followed by the the ...
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How do I trill between F and D in the middle register?

In a few pieces there are trills between the middle register F and D. I try to trill it with the normal fingering, but the trill ends up very clumsy and the notes, not well defined. How do I trill ...
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Why is this tremolo here instead of a trill?

In my copy of Jacques Ibert's Concertino da Camera, I have this curious marking: In the first bar after 23, there seems to be a tremolo from a C# to a B. This shows up multiple times—why isn't this ...
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How to play the trills in Chopin's Waltz in A minor Op 43 No 2

In Chopin's Waltz Op 43 No. 2 in A minor are some trills in the left hand. How many trills should be played in this bar and where to stop the trill, on E or on F? Also since the right hand starts ...
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How to play this trill in Mozart's Piano Sonata 14 (K457)

How does one play this trill in this Mozart Sonata? Does it mean we play 3 notes (Eb, F, Eb) before the last two notes of the second bar? Or how many trills does one have to play?
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How do you play all the trills in Mozart Piano Sonata No. 15 K.545 1st Mov.?

My piano teacher and I have been wondering how to play the trills, especially the second trill. Could you guys also tell me why the trill is played that way? Thanks.
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Trills, Tremolo and forearm movement on the piano

I still don't understand what the proper way is to playing trills and tremolos, even though I've read a lot about them and watched a lot of videos. Worse it seems like all the people explaining it do ...
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Clarinet trilling over the break

I am practicing Capriccio Espagnol by Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov Arr. by Richard Meyer, and there is a trill that I've looked at 100 times and I am absolutely sure it goes over the break from A to B. ...
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Trills in sheet music

When you see a trill in sheet music how to you know if you alternate the givin note and the half step above it or the whole step above it or any other interval?
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How do you play this trill?

This trill is in my music and I don't know how to play it.
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How to play single note trill on the piano with one hand?

My teacher told me that I have to play trills with 3 fingers (3-2-1). Is he right? Can I play trills with 4 fingers (4-3-2-1)? Notes:
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How to play these trills from Clementi's Sonatina in C Major on piano?

I'm having trouble playing the trills below, especially with the two sixteenth notes at the end. Basically, I'm wondering if the trill's notes were written in full, how would they look? This comes ...
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Do accidentals earlier in the measure affect a trill?

I was attempting to help someone understand all the markings in a piece with which they are unfamiliar. One, however, has given me pause: Now, I know the rule for a trill is that it ordinarily ...
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Mastering double trills

After many years of playing piano I recently encountered the double trill in Chopin's Barcarolle. I'm having a hard time getting my fingers to actually play them. Although I do have what could be ...
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How to play Haydn Variation trills

In Haydn's F minor variations for piano, how does one attack the continuous trills, one note after the other?
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How do you practice trills on piano?

The title says it all: my trills on piano are really terrible, unless they are 1-2 or 2-3. Anything involving the 5th finger is especially awful. I have the same feeling of frustration of when I ...
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Can acceptable trills be played on an old M1 with unweighted synth action?

So I have a Korg T3 (basically an M1 with some extra ROM samples). I am deeply deeply unsatisfied with my trills because they just don't have that smooth, singing, "trilly" quality. They are on time ...
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Bach: How is this mordent to be realized? Why do people play it like a trill?

So, the old Invention No. 1 by JSB: http://javanese.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/7/72/IMSLP63611-PMLP03267-Bach_Oeves_Complets_Peters_Liv_7_BWV_772-786_2748.pdf The B on the 4th beat of the 1st bar ...
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Notation for flute trills in music score

I'm only playing simple pieces (Grade 1 in the UK) but even some of these have Tr notation next to a note, and a separate bit of score above the score. What I notice is, the note in the main score is ...
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Trill in Chopin Nocturne

Chopin's nocturnes have always been some of my favorite pieces of music to play. However, I was working through No. 17 when I came across this particular complex couple of bars. Particularly, the ...
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Alto Saxophone: tremolo using alternate fingerings

On Alto Saxophone, which notes can easily produce a "tremolo" effect, using alternate fingerings? It's a kind of "warble" effect I'm looking for, but without changing pitch (or ...
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De-awkwardize middle G trill on recorder

The third movement of Bach's second Brandenburg Concerto calls for multiple trills on the middle G in F. The fingering is highly awkward because it is right between two registers and I am looking for ...
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Trill in Bach fugue WTC 1 BWV 851

In the second bar of the J.S. Bach d-minor Fugue in WTC 1 (BWV 851), we have How should this trill be played?
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Practicing Trills

The slowness of my trills is getting annoying. I am able to play Blue by Yngwie Malmsteen but yet fail at doing the trill in the intro. How can one practice to make them faster? Endurance is not an ...
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Interpreting ornamentation in Haydn Piano Sonata in G Major Hob. XVI: 8

This is the first movement of sonata in G Major Hob. XVI: 8 by Haydn: In bars 6, 8 and 12 there are trills (presumably in 8), but each one is represented a little bit differently. In bar 6 there are ...
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Learning to trill without a trill key

I don't really like resorting to trill keys when I want to do difficult trills like C-D. For one, the pitch and quality isn't exactly the same. Also, it feels like cheating. I'm willing to use them as ...
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Play high C-D trill on flute

I have a C flute, which I recently dug out and am relearning. I've noticed that the first trill key for C-D doesn't work as well for high C-D. There is a change in pitch and quality, much more ...
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Learning 4/5 trills on the piano?

This has got to be one of the hardest technical things to teach your hands. I'm looking for advice from someone who's already surmounted this particular obstacle. To be clear, I'm talking about ...
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Can the the same note be trilled two different ways?

C# and Db are one and the same, as shown in the first measure of the example. If you trill the two, as seen in the second measure, you'd expect the two trills to be the same. However, a trill is ...
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