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How is it that 12 eighth notes fit in a measure labeled as common time?

I am looking at Franz Liszt's Consolation S.172 No.3. I have checked out two different music scores of the same composition and they both have the same time signature (standard), however the base line ...
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What does this 7 mean above the F flat?

It seems to look like a fingering number but I don’t have 7 fingers and the note is already marked with a fingering number. This is from Chopin's Fantaisie-Impromptu, Op. 66.
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How are very long tuplets in Romantic music played in practice?

In Romantic music, especially for piano, one can often find oversized tuplets like this one: (the excerpt comes from the very beginning of the 3rd movement of Grieg's piano concerto) Are you really ...
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What exactly does a 3 mean over a quarter note and an 8th note?

There is an eighth note followed by a quarter note, and above them is a little overarching bracket with a little 3 in it. I know this has something to do with the timing, but I have no idea what. ...
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Effective way to notate triplets

I was directed by America Luke to this forum site. I hope this is the correct place. I have a score with a lot of triplets. It's awkward to write always \times 2/3 {c16 d e} \times 2/3 {d e f}. ...
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Triplets against twos in Bach's music

I was reading up on tuplets and polyrhythms because I was having trouble playing some of Bach's keyboard works containing three-against-two rhythms. Then I found something interesting: (...) It is ...
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Unknown indication below upper stave

The number 2, quite large and in italics, appears twice below the notes on the upper stave. There are some fingering indicators but one quarter the size. The time signature is 6/8
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What does it mean when there are two 1s with a curve over a note?

I have never seen this kind of symbol before and google has failed me. This notation occurs in Chopin Nocturne Op. 9, No. 1, measure 2 beats 4–6.
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How Do I Count Note Durations In These Bars?

I am learning a piece at the moment which is in 4/4, however some bars look like they should be 12/8, and I am confused about the mixing of notation of sometimes triplets sometimes not. Here is the ...
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What note values cannot be represented in conventional notation?

Using dots, ties and tuplets of standard note values (whole, half, quarter, etc.), are there values that cannot be represented? Examples: 1/8 is an eighth 7/16 is a two-dotted-quarter 15/8 is a ...
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Why did Beethoven use triplets for the whole first movement of Moonlight Sonata rather than writing it in say 6/8?

I just came across the score for Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata, and I was surprised when I saw the time signature of the first movement. (My background is that I've played music for many years—mainly ...
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Notation of triplets in Bach’s *Orgelbüchlein*

In the following piece from J.S. Bach’s Orgelbüchlein, the nearly constant triplet line seems to be incorrect: The time signature is 3/2, but there are 9 eighth-note triplets per measure rather than ...
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What is this "┌─3─┐" notation called? What is the count? [duplicate]

I am trying to help my wife work out the naming of this notation. Its from the Doctor Who theme and is accompanied after some triplets for the trumpets Measure is 4 beats, what is the count?
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How to interpret in swing a 16th triplet followed by an 1/8 note?

So the combined 1/16 triplet and 1/8 note cover a quarter note. The question is does the 1/16 triplet cover a straight 1/8 note or does it cover the 1st two 1/8 notes of a set of an 1/8 triplet. So is ...
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How to write 2 crotchet (quarter note) triplets when they don't start on the down beat?

I gave this question some thought but I may have worded it wrong so the best I can do is give an example. If you look in the second bar of the piece I am writing (below), there are three sets of ...
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How to tackle this tricky rhythm -- nested triplets?

I play in a local brass quintet, and we were sent some new music by a local composer. When we played it through, my part contained this rhythmic pattern which stopped me dead. I realised that when I ...
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Orchestral score has inconsistent time signature changes and note lengths

I'm learning music notation and as both a fan and enthusiast I bought the Star Trek: The Motion Picture film score from Omni Music Publishing. Unfortunately, I've encountered a confusing bit of ...
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Learn music with odd rhythms

I've always had problems with tuplets (3/2, 4/3, etc), until I was taught this nifty trick: subdivide the total duration (4 quartuplets, 3 triplets, etc) by the least common multiple (12, for 4/3) ...
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Five quarter notes in 4/4? [duplicate]

I want to know how to interpret this. I researched a bit but only read about multiple voices, which are obviously not present here. The whole piece is in 4/4, only this one measure contains 5 ...
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What do the numbers 2 & 3 mean (duplet/tuplet/finger indication?) in this first bar of a song?

I was looking for a simple anime song piece where I encounter this piece whose first bar does not make sense to me (I uploaded the first bar picture ). Especially what is meant by 2 and 3 at the top ...
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Can a tuplet make notes longer?

While reading about tuplets recently, I came across the notion of a ratio for a tuplet. As shown in this picture, for example, a 3 eighth note to 2 eighth note tuplet would replace two eighth notes ...
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Is it Possible to Write Straight Eights in 12/8

I'm writing a piece in the time signature of 12/8, and I want a part of it to be in 4/4. I know I can just change the time signature, but I thought of something: If you can divide a beat into three (...
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Notating 6 (or more) triplets with a single beam?

Does the bar labeled "One six note phrase" conform to notation standards? All the examples of triplets that I've seen before have always had the beams break every three notes, similar to the "Manual ...
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Making a confusing sheet with 3 voices and triplets non-ambiguous

Context I've transcribed the Title Screen song from Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow for classical guitar and I am now polishing the sheet. Here are measures 15 and 16 of the direct transcription of the ...
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lilypond - hide tuplet numbers

I am working on translating BWV 772 into a lilypond file. I want to make it match the manuscript as much as possible. In the first bar, Bach writes the 3s for the triplets in both voices and then you ...
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History of triplets

I was wondering about triplets : when and where were they used for the first time in scores? More generally, when were triplets used significantly (i.e. not one single time on one particular score, ...
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Irrational meter - why the mark of a triplet in 4 half notes

Can someone please explain to me why the mark of a triplet in this 4 half notes? I understood how to play it but from what i read you can only write triplets on 3 notes like 3 eighths 3 quarters etc......
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How to clearly notate tuplets, both "simple" and "complex," in irregular meters

(There's a bunch here, sorry. I've used bold text to outline the flow of the main content of the question.) Basically, I'm transcribing the rhythms of a song, mostly in a 6/4 & 4/4 feel, though ...
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How to write rests in triplet semiquaver groups

In the second bar of this exercise, I have to add the correct rest into a triplet semiquaver group: Do you have to use separate semiquaver rests like I have done, or could I have used one quaver rest ...
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Metric Modulation: Length of 'swing' notes

I just exported a Piano score from Sibelius with a swing feel: I wanted to edit the MIDI in my DAW and noticed, that the notes actually weren't in a triplet duration. The second note was always off ...
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What time signature should I use with partial triplets?

Say I have six groupings of eighth note triplets, 18 total notes. I want to play 16 eighth note triplets, leave off the last two notes ("partial triplet"), and repeat the section. To my ear, ...
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Lilypond tremolo and tuplets

I am inputting a score and struggling with repeated triplets. In the snippet A is visually what is in the manuscript B is my understanding of the musical intention C is as close as I can get in ...
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Triplets in 4/4 or 12/8 (with dotted quarter notes as beats)?

I am writing a piece in 4/4 which has triplets all the way. I insist it is not a "swing" feel, which I know how to notate (writing regular eight notes and adding the Swing decorator), but ...
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Octave in a triplet? How would I do that?

I am learning the left hand of Blumenlied by Gustav Lange and I notice something very tricky in the left hand. An octave starting a triplet. Here is how I have been playing that rhythm in the F major ...
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Is it a mistake to write a "6" (sextuplet notation) over a grouping of three notes?

Like many guitarists I'm not great at reading traditional music notation. I just came across the following bar, and I'm confused: (If anyone cares, this is from the song Sequoia Throne by Protest the ...
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Problems with notation in 6/8 and dotted sixteenth

I have been practicing with the Stick Control book by George Lawrence Stone. After a while it starts with the 6/8 time signature, but then I ran into some notation that I can't quite understand. If ...
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How do I enter these triplets into MuseScore?

I'm a total beginner with all things music theory, so I figured I'd ask. I'm trying to enter this into MuseScore, but the triplets in the last two bars are confusing me. If I try to enter them I get ...
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How to notate a "softened" dotted rhythm?

In a score I'm preparing, I have many pairs of notes whose durations should be played in the ratios 2:1 or 1:2, with each pair having a total duration of a half note. The common way to notate this is ...
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Can't understand 16th notes connected by beams [duplicate]

The following section (mm. 49–52) is from "Metamorphosis II" by Philip Glass with 4/4 signature. I don't understand how beats are adding up: There are 4x6 16th notes in each G clef measure, ...
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How to interpret the '3' notation underneath the first two quavers?

I'm trying to adapt a guitar piece to the piano. The piece, shown here, is in 3/4. I've never seen this bit of notation before and I initially thought it was the indicator telling you to play 3 notes ...
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How would I play these triplets?

I’m finding it really hard to play these triplets. Also any tips on how to overall count these bars as I’m struggling to count it as a lot of the rhythm doesn’t fall on the beat and I get confused. It ...
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Counting duplets

I read about duplets in "Music Theory for Dummies" by Michael Pilhofer and it was introduced with the following graphic (not exactly the same - it should be interpreted as a rhythmic notation). The ...
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Notating lilypond triplet inside of slur

I'm trying to have a slurred triplet inside of some lilypond notation, but I get the following error: music.ly:32:52: error: syntax error, unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER a(b cis a e'-.) e e8(d \...
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Spacing in tuplets (in sheet-music)

I am trying to understand whether it's okay to have different spaces within tuplets in case if I have other voices, or should I aim somehow to have even spaces in tuplets? Here is an example: For me ...
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How can I write undecuplets (11-tuplets) and duovigenuplets (22-tuplets) on Noteflight?

I found these undecuplets (11-tuplets) and duovigenuplets (22-tuplets) in Chopin's Nocturne in B-flat minor, Opus 9, Number 1: I want to use such tuplets in my own music. How can I write them in ...
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How can I render "uneven" tuplets in ABC notation?

I understand how to create "normal" tuplets in ABC: for example, where a triplet contains three notes, or a quintuplet contains five notes. X:1 T:"Normal" Tuplets M:2/4 L:1/16 K:...
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Sextuplet vs pair of triplets

A single sextuplet and a pair of triplets are similar in the fact that their rhythmic note values are equal, but are different (as affirmed in this post) in that usually a sextuplet should only have ...
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Preferred notation for subdivision into 2 parts in 6/8

Which of these notations is preferred?
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What's this symbol in the picture (a line across three notes with a '3' in the middle of the line)? [duplicate]

What does that 3 with lines stand for?
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How do I play this 8th note triplet?

These two measures are identical except for the triplet 8th notes in the right hand of the first measure. This piece is in cut time, so how can both these measures add to 2 beats when one of them has ...
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