Questions tagged [tuplet]

For questions about the notation or use of a tuplet (the most common form being a triplet). Questions with this tag will most likely also contain the rhythm tag.

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How is it that 12 eighth notes fit in a measure labeled as common time?

I am looking at Franz Liszt's Consolation S.172 No.3. I have checked out two different music scores of the same composition and they both have the same time signature (standard), however the base line ...
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How are very long tuplets in Romantic music played in practice?

In Romantic music, especially for piano, one can often find oversized tuplets like this one: (the excerpt comes from the very beginning of the 3rd movement of Grieg's piano concerto) Are you really ...
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Effective way to notate triplets

I was directed by America Luke to this forum site. I hope this is the correct place. I have a score with a lot of triplets. It's awkward to write always \times 2/3 {c16 d e} \times 2/3 {d e f}. ...
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Unknown indication below upper stave

The number 2, quite large and in italics, appears twice below the notes on the upper stave. There are some fingering indicators but one quarter the size. The time signature is 6/8
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What exactly does a 3 mean over a quarter note and an 8th note?

There is an eighth note followed by a quarter note, and above them is a little overarching bracket with a little 3 in it. I know this has something to do with the timing, but I have no idea what. ...
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What note values cannot be represented in conventional notation?

Using dots, ties and tuplets of standard note values (whole, half, quarter, etc.), are there values that cannot be represented? Examples: 1/8 is an eighth 7/16 is a two-dotted-quarter 15/8 is a ...
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Triplets against twos in Bach's music

I was reading up on tuplets and polyrhythms because I was having trouble playing some of Bach's keyboard works containing three-against-two rhythms. Then I found something interesting: (...) It is ...
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Notation of triplets in Bach’s *Orgelbüchlein*

In the following piece from J.S. Bach’s Orgelbüchlein, the nearly constant triplet line seems to be incorrect: The time signature is 3/2, but there are 9 eighth-note triplets per measure rather than ...
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Five quarter notes in 4/4? [duplicate]

I want to know how to interpret this. I researched a bit but only read about multiple voices, which are obviously not present here. The whole piece is in 4/4, only this one measure contains 5 ...
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Is it Possible to Write Straight Eights in 12/8

I'm writing a piece in the time signature of 12/8, and I want a part of it to be in 4/4. I know I can just change the time signature, but I thought of something: If you can divide a beat into three (...
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How to tackle this tricky rhythm?

I play in a local brass quintet, and we were sent some new music by a local composer. When we played it through, my part contained this rhythmic pattern which stopped me dead. I realised that when I ...
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What do the numbers 2 & 3 mean (duplet/tuplet/finger indication?) in this first bar of a song?

I was looking for a simple anime song piece where I encounter this piece whose first bar does not make sense to me (I uploaded the first bar picture ). Especially what is meant by 2 and 3 at the top ...
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How to write 2 crotchet (quarter note) triplets when they don't start on the down beat?

I gave this question some thought but I may have worded it wrong so the best I can do is give an example. If you look in the second bar of the piece I am writing (below), there are three sets of ...
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History of triplets

I was wondering about triplets : when and where were they used for the first time in scores? More generally, when were triplets used significantly (i.e. not one single time on one particular score, ...
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Learn music with odd rhythms

I've always had problems with tuplets (3/2, 4/3, etc), until I was taught this nifty trick: subdivide the total duration (4 quartuplets, 3 triplets, etc) by the least common multiple (12, for 4/3) ...
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Notating 6 (or more) triplets with a single beam?

Does the bar labeled "One six note phrase" conform to notation standards? All the examples of triplets that I've seen before have always had the beams break every three notes, similar to the "Manual ...
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How to clearly notate tuplets, both “simple” and “complex,” in irregular meters

(There's a bunch here, sorry. I've used bold text to outline the flow of the main content of the question.) Basically, I'm transcribing the rhythms of a song, mostly in a 6/4 & 4/4 feel, though ...
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Irrational meter - why the mark of a triplet in 4 half notes

Can someone please explain to me why the mark of a triplet in this 4 half notes? I understood how to play it but from what i read you can only write triplets on 3 notes like 3 eighths 3 quarters etc......
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Octave in a triplet? How would I do that?

I am learning the left hand of Blumenlied by Gustav Lange and I notice something very tricky in the left hand. An octave starting a triplet. Here is how I have been playing that rhythm in the F major ...
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Is it a mistake to write a “6” (sextuplet notation) over a grouping of three notes?

Like many guitarists I'm not great at reading traditional music notation. I just came across the following bar, and I'm confused: (If anyone cares, this is from the song Sequoia Throne by Protest the ...
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How to interpret the '3' notation underneath the first two quavers?

I'm trying to adapt a guitar piece to the piano. The piece, shown here, is in 3/4. I've never seen this bit of notation before and I initially thought it was the indicator telling you to play 3 notes ...
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Counting duplets

I read about duplets in "Music Theory for Dummies" by Michael Pilhofer and it was introduced with the following graphic (not exactly the same - it should be interpreted as a rhythmic notation). The ...
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Metric Modulation: Length of 'swing' notes

I just exported a Piano score from Sibelius with a swing feel: I wanted to edit the MIDI in my DAW and noticed, that the notes actually weren't in a triplet duration. The second note was always off ...
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Preferred notation for subdivision into 2 parts in 6/8

Which of these notations is preferred?
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How do I play this 8th note triplet?

These two measures are identical except for the triplet 8th notes in the right hand of the first measure. This piece is in cut time, so how can both these measures add to 2 beats when one of them has ...
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Notating lilypond triplet inside of slur

I'm trying to have a slurred triplet inside of some lilypond notation, but I get the following error: music.ly:32:52: error: syntax error, unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER a(b cis a e'-.) e e8(d \...
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lilypond : tuplet vs. times

Reading some examples of lilypond codes, I sometimes see \tuplet and sometimes \times for engraving nuplets. In the documentation, the french (using \times) and the english version (that uses \tuplet) ...
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What does the double 3s mean in these patterns?

These are from For Whom the Bell Tolls drums: I understand the sixteen-notes triplets, but the other 3 above them confuses me. The first sixteen-note of the triplets would be in the same location as ...
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Ornament Symbol for Triplet

I am writing a piece of music that has a lot of triplets used as ornaments. Is there a symbol like this: that will be played as as a triplet on the note? Example: note is G. With symbol over it, ...
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How would I play these triplets?

I’m finding it really hard to play these triplets. Also any tips on how to overall count these bars as I’m struggling to count it as a lot of the rhythm doesn’t fall on the beat and I get confused. It ...
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Quintuplet over 3/16th

For quintuplets over 4/16th notes I can use 16th note quintuplet. For quintuplets over 2/16th notes I can use 32nd note quintuplet. Is there any notation for quintuplets over 3/16th notes? Imagine ...
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Confusing rhythms/tuplets in Le Sacre du Printemps?

I've been studying Igor Stravinsky's Le Sacre du Printemps, a wonderful piece known for being quite strange. Of course, there are numerous usages of tuplets, and they confuse me greatly, so I'm not ...
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How to apply Tuplets properly?

1. About Quadruplet. A quadruplet is a note-grouping of 4, played in the length of 3 of its note-type (4:3). But I'm wondering can we use the quadruplets spanning less and more than 3 notes (ratios ...
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Time signature inconsistent

I'm trying to write the first measure of the Moonlight in Lilypond From my very basic knowledge the first measure is 4 x 3 x 1/8 = 3/2 long, but the special symbol (alla breve) seams to be a 2/2. ...
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Trouble Understanding Triplets

I have (as far as I know) a basic understanding in music theory. But one thing I never understood was triplets. Logically, to me, they make absolutely no sense. I know how to calculate the value: If ...
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Can a tuplet apply to a fraction of a beat?

Instead of dividing a beat, or an entire sequence of beats, could it be that it alters the duration of (say) one and a half beats?
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Feeling eighth note quintuplets

Many of my favorite really complicated songs have these quintuplets in them (5 equally-spaced notes in the space of a quarter note), yet I can't seem to "feel" these 5-note subdivisions. I have no ...
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Triplets against 16th notes on piano

I'm practicing the hardest thing I have ever practiced and I'm now little confused how to play specific two bars (in the video they begin roughly at 12:35) This is the first bar - it's in D major in ...
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Question on time signatures relating to compound and simple time with tuplets

I'm currently learning theory for grade 3, but i hit sort of a roadblock. In the image, the question asks to "Add time signatures to these bars". Now, I do know that let's say 3/4 and 6/8 differ in ...
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How much time, in crotchet beats, does a crotchet triplet take up?

Please help me with my gcse music homework!! Here is the question I've been given; How much time, in crotchet beats, does a crotchet triplet take up?
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Thoughts on Tuplets vs. Subdivision?

This was a point of interest brought up in the comments to my answer on Help with analyzing sus and add chords in this progression. In that question, the sheet music has a measure of 4/4 time written ...
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Writing a duplet in Lilypond

How can one write a duplet consisting of two quarter notes equal to a dotted-quarter note in 6/8 time? Like this: I tried \tuplet 2/1. but the . is not accepted. And if I write this: \tuplet 2/3 {&...
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Write three sixteenth notes as a triplet in Musescore

I am desperate, I don't know where else to look. I have this score where I need to turn 3 sixteenths into a triplet. Is there a way to select the three notes and make them into a triplet? I really ...
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How to write a Swing Rhythm using tabs?

I'm tabbing out a song on bass, which consists partly of a swing rhythm. I'm wondering how to properly convey a swing rhythm (or more generally, triplets) using tabs. Here is the part as I've written ...
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Rules For Notating Tuplets

The first line shows 3 ways to notate the same rhythm. The second line shows 2 ways to notate another rhythm. The third line shows 4 various tuplet rhythms. 1) Are these tuplets all notated ...
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Notating two against three in 3/4 time

I've read a lot of material on various forums. Question: when notating two beats against three beats in 3/4 time. Obvious solution is simply two dotted eighth notes. Or quarter note tied to an eighth ...
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Number 6 finger notation on music?

My music has a number 6 on the finger notation and I can’t figure out what finger I’m supposed to use.
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Why are 16th notes in groups of 3 not adding up to 4/4?

So whats up with the last measure? It seems that the last two notes are too much. There are already 4 times 4 1/16 notes? It's a piece from Bach; BWV 597
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How to rewrite this rhythm from common time to 12/8 time?

How might one go about rewriting the following rhythm into a time signature of 12/8? I initially figured we could just notate each set of beamed eighth-notes with 4:6 above them to indicate that four ...