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Can secondary dominant come after target chords?

You example seems like a jazz/pop case, but in "classical" style you can have secondary dominants after their associated tonic chords. In Gjerdingen's Music in the Galant Style he shows ...
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Can secondary dominant come after target chords?

This is really an abuse of Roman numeral notation. Although there are back-relating dominants, as pointed out by @Mirlan, that's not what's happening here. Calling it V/VI- serves a practical purpose ...
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Can secondary dominant come after target chords?

Yes, a secondary dominant can in some cases "back-relate" to its preceding tonic. A good example is Schubert's song "Mein!", where the chords (once the voice enters) go I-V7-ii-V7/...
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Can secondary dominant come after target chords?

Based on the comments, I'd say it's a V7/III followed by III. In general, any major or minor chord may be preceded by its "dominant" without disturbing the local tonality. In this case, the ...
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What Is This Chord? Is It A Ab5?

Yes, you're missing some information of music theory. Look up augmented sixth chord (respectively german 6th and french 6th chord). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_sixth_chord Ab C D F# = ...
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What Is This Chord? Is It A Ab5?

The second chord in measure 30 isn't a chord in its own right. All of measure 30 is a German augmented-sixth chord, spelled Ab, C, Eb, and F#. What happens on beat 2 is that the two inner voices ...
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In C minor, is Am7b5 a borrowed chord from Dorian?

There are many questions and other things to address here. "In C minor, is Am7b5 a borrowed chord from Dorian?" I can't see any benefit in thinking about borrowing from Dorian, definitely ...
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What Is This Chord? Is It A Ab5?

The second chord of Bar 30 is best explained as a passing chord, as it is sandwiched between two differently voiced German Augmented 6th chords and uses D instead of their C and E flat. Alternately, ...
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In C minor, is Am7b5 a borrowed chord from Dorian?

As @Aaron pointed out in his answer this chord can be interpreted in all of the ways you mentioned but it is best thought of as a minor version of a 1-6-2-5, which is very often used in jazz. It is ...
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What Is This Chord? Is It A Ab5?

It looks like an Italian Sixth. In the keys of C major and minor, it's built on the minor sixth above the tonic (not why it's called the Augmented Sixth) with a minor third and an augmented sixth ...
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In C minor, is Am7b5 a borrowed chord from Dorian?

Am7♭5 contains the same set of notes as F9 (minus root). So playing an F9 chord would work just as well, with the possibility of it having an A as the lowest note - not clear from a lead sheet, unless ...
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In C minor, is Am7b5 a borrowed chord from Dorian?

They're talking about dorian, because the "true" VI chord in C minor would be AbMaj7. One could consider that the A natural comes from melodic minor, but then there's the matter of the ...
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Is Ab/Bb chord in C Major?

Define 'in'? A♭/B♭ certainly isn't diatonic in C major, it isn't built out of the notes of the C major scale. But the page doesn't pretend that it is. It simply states that, from a certain point, ...
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Is Ab/Bb chord in C Major?

Theoretically an vertical combination of tones can be a chord at any time. You need to know the harmonic style to how to regard any particular tones as chord or non-chord tones. Your example is using ...
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Is Ab/Bb chord in C Major?

Key means tonic. If the tonic chord in your head is a C major chord, then for you, it's in C major, regardless of what pitches are sounding. Tonic is not determined by finding a set of sounding notes ...
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Is Ab/Bb chord in C Major?

Three of the four notes in the chord are not diatonic to C major so the chord is not a diatonic chord in that key. Your book is confusing. On the other hand, it would not be at all unusual for the ...
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Is Ab/Bb chord in C Major?

The example would be more clear if the key signature was changed to C major in the last two measures. It would be then apparent that to notate Ab/Bb you need to use notes Ab, Eb and Bb which are not ...
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What makes vi chord tonic or subdominant?

My analysis is a bit different. I see the first Em as just a "color" chord; it does not act as a functional chord. It does make for smooth voice-leading in a pattern that's part of the Ice-...
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What makes vi chord tonic or subdominant?

You're correct about the vi chords, but both apparent iii chords are acting relative to the following IV chords. In that sense, they're serving a dominant-like function relative to IV — i.e., vii/IV. ...
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melody analysis according to chord or structural tones?

Analyze the melody. Lead sheets are not that good in general. If you get the melody analyzed, you may find more than one possible harmony. A good (very old but the principles still apply and there is ...
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melody analysis according to chord or structural tones?

Theory on melody is not as well covered, and easily available, as theory about harmony. So, if you want to get into studying melody, take time to build up a good collection of resources. However, this ...
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