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Why is B♯ higher than C♭ in 31-ET?

This question seems to arise from a “linear” mental model of notes. C♭ C C♯ D♭ D D♯ E♭ E E♯ F♭ F F♯ G♭ G G♯ A♭ A A♯ B♭ B B♯ C♭ C C♯ Like a piano keyboard, but somehow with 31 notes per ...
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How many notes are in an octave in Indian classical music? Is it 7, 12, or 22?

To use Indian musical terminology, there are 7 swara, 12 swara-prakaar, and 22 shruti in an octave. The seven swara in Indian music are the equivalents of the Western do re mi fa so la ti. In Indian ...
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What does this sharp sign with an arrow mean?

It's an indication for a three-quarter-tone sharp. Another common symbol for the same thing is what looks like a regular sharp sign with three vertical strokes. (Image source: MuseScore 4) A single ...
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Why is B♯ higher than C♭ in 31-ET?

It is because B and C are closer together than the difference between B and B♯ and the difference between C and C♭. That is, they are all some sort of semitone apart. Alternatively, note that B♯ is ...
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"∞-TET": Is there music that doesn't use discretely pitched notes?

A trivial answer : yes. When I was quite young I wrote a computer program to spit out a succession of 'beeps' at random frequencies not related to any musical scale; I suspect many people who have a ...
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How would you play a normal song on an n-TET instrument?

There's no single, universal answer to this. Most Western music is based on a combination of diatonic melody (which is arguably best rendered in Pythagorean tuning, i.e. 9:8 whole-tone steps), and 5-...
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Is a cappella xenharmonic by default?

I admire a lot of Adam's work, but I think he's exaggerating a bit about the reasons why choirs get off pitch. (Though he's stating a commonly held belief -- or perhaps common excuse.) Yes, most ...
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How do you exactly notate in 31-TET?

There are two alternative notations for 31-TET. One of them uses double sharps and double flats: Note name A B♭♭ A♯ B♭ A♯♯ B C♭ B♯ C D♭♭ C♯ D♭ C♯♯ D E♭♭ D♯ E♭ D♯♯ E F♭ E♯ F G♭♭ F♯ G♭ F♯♯ G A♭♭ G♯ A♭ ...
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Why is B♯ higher than C♭ in 31-ET?

This isn't quite an answer, but is also too long for a comment, and I think it will point you in the right direction. The conventions for the spelling of 31TET are related to the conventions of ...
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Can tonic sol-fa cope with quarter tones?

In the composer John Lambert's ear-training classes, he got his students to sing quarter-tone exercises using - I think - DIE RYE MY FIE SIGH LIE and TIE for quarter sharps, and DAW TAW LAW SAW FORE ...
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Where to find information about tunings?

I had a couple of emails recently from ex-members of the mailing-list telling me where everyone had gone. The information below is taken from those. .......................................................
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How do you exactly notate in 31-TET?

Generally, you don't notate for 31-edo. Recall that we don't really notate for 12-edo either, otherwise there would be no such thing as enharmonics. Rather, as long as you intend to use it for tonal 5-...
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Can tonic sol-fa cope with quarter tones?

There are some proposed solutions for a variety of tunings. For example, here's a solfege for 31-EDO, attributed to Andrew Heathwaite. The same page contains links to systems for 17-EDO, 22-EDO, 29-...
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How do I aurally recognize microtonality?

I'm surprised no one has mentioned what I think is the obvious answer: Listen to microtonal music! Check out works from: Tristan Murail Claude Vivier Pascal Dusapin Karlheinz Stockhausen Iannis ...
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B -> C and E -> F, No Sharp?

The layout of a piano keyboard always puzzled me. For many years I asked music professionals why was it so illogical - no one seemed to know. Eventually, the best answer I found was that early ...
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"∞-TET": Is there music that doesn't use discretely pitched notes?

"Harmonies" by Gyorgy Ligeti is an interesting example of microtonal music. It's written for organ, but it's intended to be played with reduced air and manipulation of the stops, so the pipes don't ...
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Can tonic sol-fa cope with quarter tones?

Salute, I'm a saxophonist and I've actually invented a solfège system a couple of years ago for personal usage which can deal with quarter tones. The basic principle is simple, keep the natural ...
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How would you play a normal song on an n-TET instrument?

By offering better approximations to (5-limit, 7-limit, or even higher) just intervals, 53-tone equal temperament gives you the opportunity to choose different pitches not only for accidentals but ...
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What is the tone name for 7-TET?

I think there are 2 main reasons to be talking about n-TET scales: You're interested in finding a scale which matches just intonation more closely than 12-TET, thereby preserving the practical ...
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Lilypond: Create natural signs and accidentals manually

If I understand you correctly, you want to add an accidental in front of a note that, due to the key of the score, inherently already is a sharp or flat note. This can be done quite easily by adding ...
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Sending microtuned MIDI notes to audio software

There is provision in the MIDI Standard to send & receive microtuning, both as entire data dumps & some realtime modifications, using SysEx messages. 7EH 08 nn is MIDI Tuning Standard (Non-...
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Sending microtuned MIDI notes to audio software

So far, in my experience, alternate tunings are a feature of the sound module, not the MIDI controller. Tetsujin (see the other answer) has found that there is a spec for this, but as far as I know it ...
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"∞-TET": Is there music that doesn't use discretely pitched notes?

Well, how about the starting clarinet solo in Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue"? It's been almost a century ago. Granted, doing the glissando continuously on its last part was not written into the score ...
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The definition of scales in 53edo

Basically the problem is that the standard notation system always implicitly assumes a meantone temperament, i.e. that two whole steps sum to a major third or equivalently, the whole scale can be ...
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Has anyone required nonstandard fingerings for "normal" pipe instruments?

This week’s video from Sarah Jeffery on the Team Recorder channel covers playing ‘Austro’ by Giorgio Tedde, which calls for some unconventional fingerings. The video is at ...
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Why isn't microtonal music more often used in soundtracks?

First, I want to shout out to Stanley Kubrick who did choose music that transcended traditional tonality for both his science fiction and horror movies. Also we might be hearing some amount of ...
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How do you exactly notate in 31-TET?

Another way of looking at it is the distinction between diatonic and chromatic semitones. Obviously 12-EDO* doesn't distinguish between them, but 31-EDO (and 19-EDO) does. A diatonic semitone ("...
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Are scales usually 7 notes in Middle-Eastern music?

No. Often, they are not modes of Western scales. On my algerian mandole, I really do need the 1/4 tone frets to play some of the mini scales that (when combined) produce a maqam. It really gives a ...
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