Timeline for End Accents in Other Cultures
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| Jan 26, 2023 at 17:24 | comment | added | Andy Bonner | I assume this question isn't looking for "genres that habitually accent some part of the 'bar' other than the 'downbeat,'" because there are a lot of those: mazurka, reggae, the backbeat mentioned in the answer. I guess you're looking for a different kind of organization, a "back-to-front" thinking. Hm. One of the difficulties with questions like these is that they might ask us to "prove a negative": If somebody can offer one example that satisfies, great, but until then we can't prove it doesn't exist... | |
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| Jun 15, 2017 at 17:43 | history | edited | Richard | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 15, 2017 at 17:25 | comment | added | Richard | @jdjazz Gamelan music doesn't really have barlines, but it's a good way of rewording the question, and I'll edit accordingly. | |
| Jun 15, 2017 at 14:29 | comment | added | jdjazz | @Richard, I'm not familiar with Gamelan music, but to help me better understand, is this an accurate rewording of your Q: "whereas Western music places metrical accents immediately after a bar line, Gamelan music places these accents immediately before a bar line. Are there other cultural traditions that do this?" I assume Gamelan music is written with measures / in meter--I personally wouldn't know how to apply the concept of metrical accents to a musical tradition that doesn't use meters. I would probably get stuck trying to distinguish metrical accents from other accents in the music. | |
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| Aug 16, 2016 at 19:56 | comment | added | user16935 | I'm not sure this is really a strict dichotomy, Richard. We have a notational convention of placing strong beats immediately after the bar line, but strong beats at the beginning of a phrase are only one of the rhythmic possibilities available. Phrases that start with an anacrusis, even 15/16 worth of anacrusis, are not uncommon, and phrases that end on a strong beat are as common as dirt, especially at section and movement ends. | |
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| Aug 12, 2016 at 17:29 | comment | added | Нет войне | I'm just thinking if modelled in Western terms, and assuming (say) straight 4/4 accenting, you'd normally assume that if you had 15 weak notes followed by a strong note, that you'd think of the strong note as the bar boundary. So I'm wondering why it can't be seen as the beginning of a 'unit' in Gamelan music, even if it's the end of a phrase. I realise this may be showing my own ignorance of Gamelan. | |
| Aug 12, 2016 at 17:25 | history | edited | Richard | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 12, 2016 at 17:25 | comment | added | Richard | By "unit" I just mean some upper level of hierarchy equal or greater than what we would normally call a "bar." The reason I switch terms around is just because I don't know enough about gamelan music to know what to call it! | |
| Aug 12, 2016 at 17:24 | comment | added | Нет войне | As an illustration of my confusion : Imagine a string of 16 sixteenth notes. In Western music, the metrical accent will be on the first sixteenth note to mark the beginning of the unit - even with really 'straight' accentation (say, in 4/4), that would only be the case if the first note fell on (say) the first beat of the bar. | |
| Aug 12, 2016 at 17:23 | comment | added | Нет войне | I'm a bit confused as to the usage of 'phrase' and 'unit' here, and the way they seem to be used interchangeably. by 'unit' do you mean something similar to what would normally be called a 'bar'? | |
| Aug 12, 2016 at 16:41 | history | asked | Richard | CC BY-SA 3.0 |