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This piece is called Hotel California. This is the link

EDIT: sorry for the unclear explanation; I meant the dotted eighth notes at bar 35.

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  • Does this help: music.stackexchange.com/q/15929/70803
    – Aaron
    Commented Jun 29, 2023 at 7:42
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    Does this answer your question? Rest above a note in a piano piece -- also have a look at the many questions linked to that one.
    – phoog
    Commented Jun 29, 2023 at 8:51
  • If written out correctly, a vertical ruler will show exactly when each note gets played.
    – Tim
    Commented Jun 29, 2023 at 9:18
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    @AndyBonner Comment to you, since you mentioned retracting your vote. I've voted to reopen. OP clarified the question is about timing, which is not a duplicate. (The duplicate, by the way, is about handling multiple voices, although the title mentions dealing with a rest.)
    – Aaron
    Commented Jun 29, 2023 at 15:04
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    Essentially this is a problem of horribly bad notation. Instead of this petzel.at/d1.png this should be notated somewhat like this petzel.at/d2.png .
    – Lazy
    Commented Jun 29, 2023 at 15:18

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I think a visual should explain it all...

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The two hands sometimes coincide rhythmically other times one hand plays before the other.

I numbered the sequence of those events in red numbers. When both hands play at the same time you can call it a rhythmic unison, and in those moments you will see the sequence number is simultaneously on both the left and right hand notes. When the hands are not in rhythmic unison, one comes before the other, and those get separate sequence numbers.

  • 1 happens before the rhythmic unison of 2
  • 3 comes before the rhythmic unison of 4
  • 5 comes before 6 which comes before 7 before a rhythmic unison at 8

Those sequence numbers would not be the common way to count time in 4/4 meter, so below I put the metrical counting using syllables like 1 ee and a 2.... This happens to be the composite rhythm, which is the combination of all rhythmic events from all parts. Notice how on beat 3 the count is 3 and a, and the and is in the left hand while the a is in the right hand. The metrical counting puts all those events together into a composite rhythm.

Beyond just dropping another music theory term, awareness of composite rhythm can help your rhythm training. Try actually counting it out loud , while playing, and feel the hands split up the composite rhythm, and where each hand coincides with the count.

You could write out the count with LH/RH placement like this...

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...even away from the keyboard you can turn that into a hand/finger tapping exercise.

Finally, notice the issue about the poor notation. Especially in the right hand, third to fourth beat. Beaming those two beats separately and then using a tie makes the synocaption much easier to read.

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  • 6 and 8 are supposed to be E, not F#, right?
    – BobRodes
    Commented Jul 5, 2023 at 20:25
  • @BobRodes, thanks for spotting that! now fixed. "poor notation" indeed! Commented Jul 6, 2023 at 14:01
  • Looks like something a computer algorithm came up with. :)
    – BobRodes
    Commented Jul 6, 2023 at 18:36
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The measure is poorly notated, because it doesn't clearly show the boundaries of the individual beats. It would be better notated as shown below.

Renotated example

Specifically, the second dotted eighth should be a sixteenth tied to an eighth. Also, the adjacent Es in the left hand are played simultaneously.

The following image shows the alignment of the notes.

Alignment example

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    Might help the OP to draw some lines showing how some of these notes are simultaneous and some aren't. (I tried just now, but unfortunately the offset dotted-quarter C creates some confusion.) Might have been a smarter arrangement to skip that dotted quarter. It gets high marks for, assumedly, trying to very meticulously recreate exactly what the guitar does, but there are many simplified versions that a beginner might find easier. Commented Jun 29, 2023 at 18:48
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    @AndyBonner Good thought. Done! Thanks.
    – Aaron
    Commented Jun 29, 2023 at 18:59
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As I’ve already pointed out in a comment this is a case of bad notation. The notation

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is quite hard to understand, in fact the most natural reading would give this 5 beats instead of 4. It would be much better to notate this like this

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If you then still have problems aligning the notes you can even do

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  • Thank you so much everyone! I understand now😭
    – mmm
    Commented Jun 30, 2023 at 1:06

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