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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

When the writer wants the music played with separated notes, he'll write staccato marks. Otherwise, the expected way is to 'join up' the notes, rather like we speak with words that follow each other ...
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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

Given that it happens in all voices and all notes, it seems pretty clear, that a tie is intended here. Since the desired note length exceeds one bar and a decrescendo is intended thoughout, this is ...
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Theoretically Correct vs Practical Notation

The top version is more correct 100% of the time when written in 4/4. In the bottom version, I see a few issues that could present themselves: In the first measure, two consecutive quarter notes that ...
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Eliminate ties via additive meter?

Firstly, it would really help if you sort out what the various voices in the bass clef are doing, (this is where the "noise" is coming from). For piano it's not really possible to re-...
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How does one maintain voice integrity when longer and shorter notes of the same pitch occur in two voices

One of the things my first piano teacher taught me when looking at Bach was to isolate the voices and play the parts by themselves to get to know how the individual lines sounded like, not just their ...
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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

Take it with a grain of salt. Any resources described as easy, basic, for dummies, in 24 hours etc. will - by their nature - oversimplify and generalize, skip any subtleties. Often they will also be ...
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Theoretically Correct vs Practical Notation

In order to most clearly communicate a 3+3+2 feel, the "intuitive" right hand would need adjustment: Beam the first three notes (dotted eighth, sixteenth, eighth) together; Split the ...
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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

If it connects two same notes, it’s probably a tie. But as with almost any general rule, there are (rare) counterexamples. Specifically, there are instances where it looks like a tie but the notes ...
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How does one maintain voice integrity when longer and shorter notes of the same pitch occur in two voices

The short, general answer All things (all voices) being equal, solution #1 is the correct technical approach. The shorter note should interrupt the longer one, but then continue to be held (allowing ...
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Theoretically Correct vs Practical Notation

The top one is correct, as @Richard answered. A little more information on the possibility of 3+3+2 being notated in 8/8 is this: If this is a "pop" piece, which it sort of feels like to ...
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Moonlight Sonata 3rd Movement tied notes

It seems that you may be conflating phrasing slurs with ties. Ties and slurs are notated similarly, but the context determines what is intended. Ties in this style will only ever connect two of the ...
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Music Notation (in Musescore) - Ties or Separate Voices?

Is it technically correct or incorrect to express one voice using two? No it does not really matter technically, either works. Is one more readable than another? They both are readable, and in my ...
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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

In the example you give, it's a tie. Period. There's a thing called 'portato'. Sustained but articulated. On a violin, the bow stays on the string but each note is given a 'push' (for want of a ...
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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

Tell me with a straight face that the slurs connecting notes of equal pitch are to be played as ties in this excerpt from the Chaconne in Bach's Partita #2 for Solo Violin. Note that this is played ...
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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

So far as I'm concerned, the one and only difference between a tie and a slur is the absence or presence of pitch change. After all, a slur instructs you to effectively make the pitch transition in a ...
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Tie instead of a Rest in Keyboard Staff notation

The tie suggests to play and hold the Dm chord for 8 beats. If there was a rest in the second bar, then the chord would only be held for 4 beats.
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Two ties in a row

You occasionally see this sort of thing in ensemble music where the chord changes but one instrument holds the same note. Unnecessary, but might add just a LITTLE useful information. This, for ...
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Help with note grouping in 6/4 time

In both cases showing the 4th beat with an imaginary bar line is the way to go. You did it at times but not consistently. The beamed 8ths look strange with the ties. If you want to use ties like in ...
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Music Notation (in Musescore) - Ties or Separate Voices?

Ankit got it right, I would only like to add another possibility. For me (as a classical guitarist), putting it into two voices would be the way to go. I would also typeset the G with stem up and the ...
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Unmatched pairs for LilyPond ties and slurs

Turns out Lilypond has a command to add tied notes that may be unmatched due to codas or repeat signs: If you follow the tied note that is other wise unable to be connected with the tie-initiator ...
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Legato & Fermata notation on tied notes

The textbook Music Notation: A Manual of Modern Practice by Gardner Read answers your first question as follows: When slurs are placed over a passage that ends in a tied note, the slur sign should ...
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Two ties in a row

Both notations are exactly equivalent, so I see no reason for the conclusion to play something differently just because notation is different. I can only guess, that in the next bar more changes ...
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Prevent collision/overlap of ties in Lilypond

I don't know if this is expected output or not. At any rate, you can override the default placement using the explicit direction specifiers ^ and _. In this case, you need to write the ~ on each note ...
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Eliminate ties via additive meter?

'Is it reasonable to use a complex time signature..? - No. That one works well for pieces that actually use complex timing. This one doesn't. It's firmly in 4/4, albeit with some syncopation. It's ...
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Help undestanding these ties on notes and chords

Yes, there's a lot going on! We COULD notate it strictly as three voices (one of which splits into two notes at times). In my example below, A plus B plus C could be notated as D. But piano notation ...
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Liebesleid (Love's Sorrow) - Kreisler (arr. Rachmaninoff), tie or slur?

It's definitely a slur from the A to the G♮, and for at least a few reasons: The beginning of this slur/tie is above the initial E. Engravers make mistakes, but that's a hard mistake to ...
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Slur or tie rule for chords in piano

You'll notice that ties are drawn much more closely to the note heads. There is no tie in the red circle, but there is in the blue one. For multiple notes to be tied, for each note tied a separate ...
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What does laissez vibrer mean on a wind instrument?

Was the music in a jazz style? What we have here, I think, is a 'fall'. An instruction to fall off the pitch at the end of a note. Here are some more 'jazz articulations' from http://www.timusic....
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Help with note grouping in 6/4 time

Neither of your solutions is optimal although the second one is better. In 6/4 the middle of the bar (i.e. between the third and fourth quarter) should be visible. So you should take your second ...
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