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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

When the writer wants the music played with separated notes, he'll write staccato marks. Otherwise, the expected way is to 'join up' the notes, rather like we speak with words that follow each other ...
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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

Given that it happens in all voices and all notes, it seems pretty clear, that a tie is intended here. Since the desired note length exceeds one bar and a decrescendo is intended thoughout, this is ...
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Fermata tie confusion

The notes are not tied. This is relatively conventional notation for portato, which is rather like a "sticky" staccato with longer but still detached notes.
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How to write a slur to nothing in LilyPond?

The easiest way to achieve this is to insert empty chords with <> that catch the open slur or tie. The following code ... << \new Staff { << { f'1( <>) } \\ { \voiceThree e'...
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Slurs within slurs

The outer/larger slur is a phrase marking, letting you know that the entire passage constitutes a single musical idea. The inner slurs are similar, but indicating smaller units. One could think of the ...
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What does this V-Shaped Slur denote?

It's an accent that applies to both notes. In the Peters edition (2007, ed. Leslie Howard), bars 748 and 752, a footnote makes this explicit: Liszt's special accent requires a stress on all the ...
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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

Take it with a grain of salt. Any resources described as easy, basic, for dummies, in 24 hours etc. will - by their nature - oversimplify and generalize, skip any subtleties. Often they will also be ...
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In the "Puff the magic dragon" piano sheet music is the slur being applied to both staves?

Phrase marks here rather than slurs. (How would you slur the first four notes?)Yes, in this case where the melody moves between the staves, the phrase applies to the whole melody. But you'd phrase ...
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Slur for same-pitch notes in chords: Tie or not?

The C should be repeated. In order to be considered a tie, the mark would have to begin at the first C and go directly to the second C. So in this case the mark is a slur.
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How do I play what looks like a double legato?

[Disclaimer: I'm going to give this a more thorough and serious answer than a short tune in a method book might warrant, since the same issues appear in larger pieces. I think what I'm about to say is ...
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Should slurs encompass tied notes from before and/or after?

The top staves are "correct" for a slur, the bottom staves are correct for a phrasing slur. For music like violin music, this difference is more poignant than for piano since a slur has separate ...
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What does this V-Shaped Slur denote?

Although not applicable to the piano piece in the question (the use of which is in the accepted answer), but to clarify for people that may see a similar mark used in student pieces, who may ...
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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

If it connects two same notes, it’s probably a tie. But as with almost any general rule, there are (rare) counterexamples. Specifically, there are instances where it looks like a tie but the notes ...
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Slur for same-pitch notes in chords: Tie or not?

Because the slur mark encompasses two notes (not just the C), then CE is played, followed by AC. A tie mark will always be starting and finishing at the same level, rather than slanting, as here. ...
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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

In the example you give, it's a tie. Period. There's a thing called 'portato'. Sustained but articulated. On a violin, the bow stays on the string but each note is given a 'push' (for want of a ...
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Slurs within slurs

Whilst they all look like slurs, they're not. Some are ties, which means they're making one long note out of two written. Bar 4, the E notes are as such. But, there's one phrase mark over bars 1 to 4, ...
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Are slurs on a score for piano as well?

Slurs are routinely used in piano scores. Sometimes they just represent phrasing, but they also represent legato playing. They clarify from other types of less legato articulation (e.g., staccato). ...
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Why include both "sempre legato" and slur marks?

Notice that the slurs go away in bar 3. That's the purpose of the sempre legato. It's saying "keep playing this as in the first two measures", rather than writing slurs through the entire ...
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How do I play what looks like a double legato?

The two slurs in the green rectangle show two different things. The slur from F to E is a legato slur that indicates how to phrase this bit, the other slur indicates that you continue with the bow ...
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How can I change slur from above to below notes when switching staff in Lilypond?

Control points can be overridden. The pairs here are x,y coordinates: \version "2.19.80" % ... r4 \once\override Slur.extra-offset = #'(0 . 6) \once\override Slur....
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What does tying an acciaccatura to the principal note with a slur imply?

On many instruments, slurs indicate a particular technique. For wind instruments, it means to play without tonguing. For orchestral strings, it means to play in one bow motion. In these cases, it's ...
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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

So far as I'm concerned, the one and only difference between a tie and a slur is the absence or presence of pitch change. After all, a slur instructs you to effectively make the pitch transition in a ...
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Can you not Slur notes of the same pitch?

Tell me with a straight face that the slurs connecting notes of equal pitch are to be played as ties in this excerpt from the Chaconne in Bach's Partita #2 for Solo Violin. Note that this is played ...
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What is the difference between two connected slurs and one big slur?

Two connected slurs like this are effectively equivalent to a single slur. This is bad notation practice, even though it's often seen. Update: it's a misprint. The first edition looks like this:
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Sustain Pedal connecting Slurs

Ultimately, this is a musical decision, so either way is fine. However,... If you want to play the music literally as written, then you would hold the pedal through, so that there's no break between ...
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How can I end a slur in multiple alternative endings in Lilypond?

In single note cases you might use \repeatTie: https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms.html#ties In more complex cases (multiple notes slurred under the volta) you can ...
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Legato & Fermata notation on tied notes

The textbook Music Notation: A Manual of Modern Practice by Gardner Read answers your first question as follows: When slurs are placed over a passage that ends in a tied note, the slur sign should ...
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